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Re: "Be careful out there"
Posted: Thu Jun 10, 2021 12:50 pm
by aerynsun
Bob wrote: ↑Thu Jun 10, 2021 12:03 am
Is your point not that random shooting have increased massively since the 70's?
Along with my other post to you; please quote my post where I said that.
Thank you
Re: "Be careful out there"
Posted: Fri Jun 11, 2021 9:35 am
by Bob
tom mac wrote: ↑Wed May 26, 2021 9:18 am
Most of tv news is BS anyway... get a good book
Now THERE is life advice to live by!!!
Re: "Be careful out there"
Posted: Fri Jun 11, 2021 9:47 am
by Bob
aerynsun wrote: ↑Wed Jun 02, 2021 7:36 pm
This is worse then the 70s/80s crime wave. Back then people at least wanted something from you.
Now they attack for sometimes unknow reasons. The cities are going to get worse. The criminals are emboldened and they don't fear prison or the police. The real bad times will begin when you see arson rising.
- You put links to specific acts of (apparently) random violence.
You stated that this is worse than the 70's/80's crime wave? (<= this could use some clarification. the entire decade? A specific summer? A specific location? What does that mean???)
You stated that they wanted something from you back then - conversely (per links) they don't now.
Thus:
Crime now is worse - It isn't.
Random attacks are more - they are not.
So that is where you said it. I'd just like to see some actual numbers in any objective form. everything I know about such things says this isn't true. I have dug into the data on this a number of times.
Preppers like to believe the world is going to hell in hand basket, because that is what they prep for. The reality is the world, at least the US, it is a far safer place than it ever was. Your actual need/likelihood of needing a firearm while mowing the lawn or any other activity, is far less than it ever was.
That said - Situational Awareness is never out of style. So even the argument of BLM riots and Antifa doesn't fly. If you can't avoid those - as a prepper - I say you are probably not safe carrying a gun anyway. But again - between your iPhone, Twitter, Mobile Alerts etc...You should know that stuff is happening before the police.
Re: "Be careful out there"
Posted: Fri Jun 11, 2021 9:48 am
by Bob
aerynsun wrote: ↑Wed Jun 09, 2021 2:47 pm
Bob wrote: ↑Wed Jun 09, 2021 9:10 am
and that you had nearly zero chance of being randomly killed?
Please provide me with my post where I wrote that.
Thanks
That was hyperbole. I retract the statement. You did not imply that.
Re: "Be careful out there"
Posted: Fri Jun 11, 2021 9:54 am
by Bob
And - regarding the Gun violence link; Does that include suicides?
As a shooter, we must always question data that shows that. Why? We all know that anti-gun sources will use any discharge of a firearm to state that guns need done away with.
How much of that spike in Gun "violence" was suicide due to lockdowns, loss of jobs, etc? And how much was crime on crime violence? Again - don't care. I'm not in MS13, the mafia, or a drug dealer/buyer.
Question question question everything!!!! Question things you actually believe EVEN HARDER!!!!
At the end of the day you find most of it is lies meant to influence you (whatever direction) or just random noise.
Re: "Be careful out there"
Posted: Fri Jun 11, 2021 10:40 am
by aerynsun
Bob wrote: ↑Fri Jun 11, 2021 9:47 am
aerynsun wrote: ↑Wed Jun 02, 2021 7:36 pm
This is worse then the 70s/80s crime wave. Back then people at least wanted something from you.
Now they attack for sometimes unknow reasons. The cities are going to get worse. The criminals are emboldened and they don't fear prison or the police. The real bad times will begin when you see arson rising.
- You put links to specific acts of (apparently) random violence.
You stated that this is worse than the 70's/80's crime wave? (<= this could use some clarification. the entire decade? A specific summer? A specific location? What does that mean???)
You stated that they wanted something from you back then - conversely (per links) they don't now.
Thus:
Crime now is worse - It isn't.
Random attacks are more - they are not.
So that is where you said it.
No I did not.
Re: "Be careful out there"
Posted: Wed Jun 23, 2021 10:58 am
by David
As ‘defund the police’ movement spread, Smith & Wesson gun company hit first billion-dollar sales year
https://www.lawenforcementtoday.com/as- ... f6JrS-oRdc
My wife was just watching a news channel were they gave the stats of 8 million guns were bought last year and projections are for that to increase this year. I would imagine that is retail sales and doesn't take into account private sales.
Re: "Be careful out there"
Posted: Thu Jun 24, 2021 6:06 pm
by Mac66
Maybe gun owners should take advantage of the defund the police movement to push loosening up gun control laws. I mean the rationale of less police protection means more self protection, which means more access to guns.
Re: "Be careful out there"
Posted: Fri Jun 25, 2021 11:39 am
by David
Depends on what state you live in. Does that state have a Patriot or a Communist in charge. That makes a big difference. And yes, I chose those two terms specifically because that is what it is right now.
Re: "Be careful out there"
Posted: Mon Jun 28, 2021 8:26 am
by Bmyers
We have a moron in charge in our State.