Mask mandates going bye-bye

[David]

I've mentioned elsewhere that I do not wear a mask. I'm happy to see that the counties around me, thanks to our Governors leadership, are going bye-bye. Pasco county was first and now Hillsborough county has let it expire. Walking around Costco and Aldi today and there were a lot of folks not wearing masks. Costco wants you to wear a mask unless you've gotten the 'vaccine' but of course they can't ask for proof because of HIPPA so it's perhaps their way of looking the other way.

Sad to see a lot of folks are still wearing masks though. Hopefully that will get less and less.

[bdcochran]

Response to mark mandate follows:
1. the concept of surgical masks is that the doctor does not infect the patient These are special masks - not like the type worn by the Lone Ranger.
2. the concept of the public wearing masks is that it might slow down the spread of a virus, and not serve as a barrier to infection, particularly when people do not wear surgical gowns, do not frequently wash their hands and clothes, do not put a new mask on after taking off the old mask, etc.
3. the fact is that people can not handle the truth - a. that a virus will spread unless herd immunity is achieved, either by enough people getting sick, people being quarantined to an extreme point or a vaccine is administered.

There is a political end to an epidemic and a medical end. Our political end is precisely June 15, 2021 in California.

1. I don't care if a person gets the doses of the vaccine.
2. I don't care if a person declines to get the vaccine.

Your decision can not be reversed. Remember that.

[Mac66]

Our state gov'nr released us from the mandate a little over a week ago. No masks outside, no masks inside if you had the vaccine. I would say that over two weekends about 3/4 of people were still wearing them the first weekend, maybe 1/3 of people are still wearing them this past weekend. Except in rural areas where people weren't wearing them much ever anyway. Interesting it's the rural counties that have been spiking in the last month or so.

Do masks do anything? I guess I'm still undecided as to the efficacy. On one hand, the virus peaked and recessed during peak mask wearing. On the the hand would it have been worse if no masks had been worn? I believe masks do to some degree lessen transmission if not severity of the virus. For those of us who still take care of high risk people. using PPEs make sense as another level of precaution,

So Dave, don't be sad for those who continue to wear them. Free choice is a good thing.

[Bob]

I still see a lot in Publix (Groceries)

They created such a "Fear Virtue" and then compounded it with one of the greatest communication debacles of all time there will be people masking in their cars until the end of time.

was up north recently (PA) different world compared to here - but sentiment was the same.

[David]

Do masks do anything?

In terms of preventing viral transmission, they do zero. It is a form of control over the population and nothing more. If they actually worked, the 'experts' and government officials pushing it would actually be doing it themselves even off camera. But they don't which should tell you something.

So Dave, don't be sad for those who continue to wear them. Free choice is a good thing.

I'm not sad about free choice. If someone wants to walk around with two masks and a face shield 24/7 then let them have at it. I'm sad that so many subjugated themselves without any critical thinking so quickly. However, I am of the opinion that this had to happen to wake up more people as to this measure of control and to give people the backbone to refuse to comply.

It was never about a virus, that was simply the vehicle. It is ALL about control; who can be and who can't be.

[Bob]

It was never about a virus, that was simply the vehicle. It is ALL about control; who can be and who can't be.

As Dave is sad about "critical thinking".

Dave - it absolutely WAS about a virus.
- There was a virus. Still is.
- The Virus is fairly lethal to a number of at risk people.

Now - what was DONE with those facts...yeah, that got about all sorts of things extremely fast. Virus definitely was a means to a variety of ends.
- Tool to leverage polital win in next election
- Opportunity exercise and test the limits of control
- Financial opportunity for Big Pharma
- Opportunity for big internet business to crush small/local competition

Yeah, those are the big things it ended up as. But there really was, and still is, a virus that really can kill certain groups of vulnerable people.


And by the way - have you heard the latest? It looks like it was from a Lab in Wuhan and that Fauci was involved and money was sent there! Did I not say that over a year ago???

[David]

As Dave is sad about "critical thinking".

This sentence doesn't make any sense?

Dave - it absolutely WAS about a virus.

Bob, you are welcome to believe this if you wish. I don't believe it was. The virus was a vehicle to push control. Nothing more.

- There was a virus. Still is.

I never said there was not a virus. I have said that the agenda was control and the virus was the means to achieve that control. I was correct.

- The Virus is fairly lethal to a number of at risk people.

So is the common cold or the flu. This virus was no more lethal that either. If it was 'the most lethal pandemic of our lifetime';

• Select individuals (read certain politicians and 'medical' professionals) would not be wearing a mask on camera but then take it off immediately after they thought the show was over or they were not on camera.

• Select individuals would not be getting their hair done/going to parties/going on vacations/eating in restaurants when they told other people they couldn't do the same.

• The MSM wouldn't be caught using footage of hospitals having an actual crisis (overseas) and then saying it was a U.S. hospital overrun because of Covid.

• Certain labs wouldn't be publishing numbers that were later discovered to be incorrect (cooking the books).

• The CDC would not be continually revising the morbidity rate downward as more 'mistakes' are discovered i.e. someone dies in a motorcycle accident but it's listed as Covid.

• The actual (according to the CDC) survival rate is 99.9+% if you are under 70 and nearly 95% if you are over 70.

• The flu suddenly disappeared but then it was discovered that flu numbers were being slide over to the Covid numbers to inflate them.

I could go on and on but the point is that if you want to believe the scamdemic is/was real then you are free to believe it. I believe it was, in fact, a scamdemic and not an actual pandemic. I believe information coming to light is going to show that it did in fact come from a lab in China (new that over a year ago). That Fauci funneled money to that lab illegally (knew that over a year ago). That masks don't stop viruses (knew that more than a year ago). And the 'vaccine' is not only unnecessary but detrimental.

And by the way - have you heard the latest? It looks like it was from a Lab in Wuhan and that Fauci was involved and money was sent there! Did I not say that over a year ago???

I don't know if you did or not, I do know that I did.

[David]

Critics Call to Fire Dr. Fauci After Emails Show Him Saying Masks Don't Work Against COVID

https://www.newsweek.com/critics-call-f ... id-1597034

I've been saying this for a bit over a year here and on other forums.

He explained that store-bought masks were "really for infected people to prevent them from spreading infection to people who are not infected rather than protecting uninfected people from acquiring infection."

Senator Rand Paul made the statement on twitter: "Told you... #FireFauci," Sen. Rand Paul (R-Ky.) tweeted. "Can't wait to see the media try to spin the Fauci FOIA emails."

Well, it didn't take long for them to try to spin the information being released via FOIA:

Newsweek: About two months later, when more was known about the transmission of the virus and the effectiveness of masks, the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention updated guidelines to recommend mask wearing. Fauci followed suit at that point. Regardless, the correspondence has been taken by some as evidence that Fauci was intentionally deceptive on masks, accompanied by a flood of renewed calls for his dismissal on social media.

Here's where critical thinking skills kick in (which the MSM doesn't like). 'About two months later when more was known about the transmission of the virus...' is a cop out and mis-direction. Viruses didn't suddenly grow larger two months later so that a mask would stop them. Viruses have always been too small for a mask (even the good ones) to stop a virus. So there was no 'updated information' that the CDC received to suddenly make masks effective. They have never been effective against a virus. Ever. That's why a virologist wears a full body hazmat suit and not a simply N95.

[David]

[Bmyers]

It has been nice watching our area getting back to normal. The official end to the government mandates is June 11, but people have already returned to normal.

Seeing fewer and fewer people wearing mask. People are shaking hands. It is nice.