Sheriff Calls Out Biden On Guns As Arizona Becomes 2nd Amendment Sanctuary State

[David]

https://arizonadailyindependent.com/202 ... ary-state/

Back when Obummer was the President, there were many Sheriff's and Police Chiefs that publicly stated they would not enforce any Federal gun laws that were unconstitutional. Some went so far as to state they would arrest any Federal agents trying to enforce Federal gun laws they felt were unconstitutional.

In truth, I'd have to propose that just about any gun law is unconstitutional. Shall not be infringed is pretty specific. By chipping away a little piece at a time they get people use to what really amounts to unconstitutional laws. For example, Florida has a CCW permit. On the surface that sounds like a positive thing. But it really isn't. Why do citizens have to pay for a permit to exercise what is already a Constitutional right? This is where groups such as the NRA, GOA etc have fallen down by not properly challenging this type of thing with a class action lawsuit. The disabled at one time had to pay for the placard that you have in your car to allow you to park in a handicap parking space. Florida was sued with a class action suit stating the State had no right to charge the disabled for the placard. The State lost and now the placard is free to the disabled. The same thing needs to happen in regards to CCW licenses. Many State legislators will try to pass Constitutional carry i.e. the Constitution is your permit...as it should be. The 'mouse' fights it and seems to have control over many of the legislators.

[Bob]

Agreed - the entire point of the 14th is to make clear that a STATE can't do anything to abridge/restrict/constrain/detain/whatever anything covered in the original.

That would be - besides Life, Liberty, & Pursuit....

1. Speech - including hateful speech. No one said free speech would not be offensive.
2. Religion - including Satanism, Paganism, Hinduism, and ism's that didn't even exist.
3. Bear Arms - And of course - each state had its own Army, which was illegally acquired by the feds...If fighting poppy growing religious wack job goat herders was not in Floridas interest, we didn't have to spend 20 years in Afghanistan, or even one.

This is why I say Freedom and Democracy etc has been gone a long time. The rules are very simple and the constraints tight - until you start manipulating them for control, power and money.

[David]

Florida’s Lawmakers are Trying to Pull a Switcheroo on Gun Rights

https://www.gunowners.org/04092021/?utm ... 20DeSantis

I would encourage all of the Florida SEP members to click the link and send an email to Gov. Desantis. I have been apart of email letter writing campaigns for years and have seen spectacular results. He needs to put pressure on the lack-luster Republicans in the State Legislature who are caving into the desires of the 'mouse' rather than representing the will of the people.

Utah, Iowa, Montana and Tennessee (just this week) have all passed Constitutional Carry bills in their legislatures and have sent them to their governors’ offices to be signed into law. But Florida, with 102 Republican lawmakers holding a Supermajority, can’t even advance one bill out of committee. Meanwhile Texas is advancing four pro-gun bills out of committee.

[Mac66]

The problem with taking the 2nd amendment to the supreme court is the possibility of losing. No one wants to risk that which is why it's never been addressed federally. The Pros don't want to risk losing, the Antis don't want to risk it being upheld.

[David]

The 2A has already been upheld by SCOTUS in District of Columbia v. Heller. SCOTUS didn't go quite far enough and it was only by a thin margin, but it was upheld.

Supreme Court Upholds Second Amendment Rights

https://aclj.org/us-constitution/suprem ... ent-rights

That isn't too infer that a future SCOTUS may not uphold their oath and go against the Constitution and BOR. And that is of course what Biden and his puppet masters are attempting to do with E.O.'s, Congressional legislation and their future attempt to pack the SCOTUS with far-left communist judges.

Which by default puts the current unlawful administration as a tyrannical government which has a stated goal of disarming American citizens without due process and fundamentally changing a Constitutional Republic into a Socialist Democracy which is just a smoke screen label for communism.

[Bob]

a future SCOTUS may not uphold their oath and go against the Constitution

Future? May?

I don't know - the current and past ones have done a pretty good job of NOT doing their job.

I have seen 6th grade debate teams that could do a better job with their votes.

[David]

a future SCOTUS may not uphold their oath and go against the Constitution

Future? May?

I don't know - the current and past ones have done a pretty good job of NOT doing their job.

I have seen 6th grade debate teams that could do a better job with their votes.

No argument there. 6th graders usually aren't bought and paid for...

[David]

[Mac66]

The 2A has already been upheld by SCOTUS in District of Columbia v. Heller. SCOTUS didn't go quite far enough and it was only by a thin margin, but it was upheld.

Supreme Court Upholds Second Amendment Rights

https://aclj.org/us-constitution/suprem ... ent-rights

That isn't too infer that a future SCOTUS may not uphold their oath and go against the Constitution and BOR. And that is of course what Biden and his puppet masters are attempting to do with E.O.'s, Congressional legislation and their future attempt to pack the SCOTUS with far-left communist judges.

Which by default puts the current unlawful administration as a tyrannical government which has a stated goal of disarming American citizens without due process and fundamentally changing a Constitutional Republic into a Socialist Democracy which is just a smoke screen label for communism.

Heller was a long way from upholding the unequivocal 2A rights against infringements. Not to mention it was 5-4 decision.

[David]

The 2A has already been upheld by SCOTUS in District of Columbia v. Heller. SCOTUS didn't go quite far enough and it was only by a thin margin, but it was upheld.

Supreme Court Upholds Second Amendment Rights

https://aclj.org/us-constitution/suprem ... ent-rights

That isn't too infer that a future SCOTUS may not uphold their oath and go against the Constitution and BOR. And that is of course what Biden and his puppet masters are attempting to do with E.O.'s, Congressional legislation and their future attempt to pack the SCOTUS with far-left communist judges.

Which by default puts the current unlawful administration as a tyrannical government which has a stated goal of disarming American citizens without due process and fundamentally changing a Constitutional Republic into a Socialist Democracy which is just a smoke screen label for communism.

Heller was a long way from upholding the unequivocal 2A rights against infringements. Not to mention it was 5-4 decision.

Not disagreeing with you but I also think it needs to be pointed out that the 2A shouldn't need to be upheld by SCOTUS. The Constitution and the BOR are ABOVE the SCOTUS and they really should have zero power and no authority to change/alter/modify or 'interpret' it beyond it's clear meaning. So yes, the 5-4 was a close call but in truth we shouldn't have needed them to make a ruling at all.