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Bob wrote: ↑Tue Nov 10, 2020 11:22 am
Trump acted like a child half the time, and babbled aimlessly. All he had to do was have Kaley or someone like her write scripts and stick to them and he could have owned. He played the game well enough to get into the drivers seat, and then didn't know where to go. Too bad - I think he did some really great things that wouldn't have got done at all. He was an example of what would happen if Ross Perot were president. Do I want him as my Finance Czar - yes. Does he make a good CEO when he is in charge of the entire company, yep. Leader of a bureaucracy the size and strength of the US Government....nope. More people got tired of him. And it wasn't Biden that beat him. Trump lost it for himself.
I think that is what the media and Hollywood said about him.
The hardest thing an outsider president has to do is get good people around him that will push his agenda. That was part of his problem; he first brought in insiders who didn't really support him. He didn't bet Barr and Pompeo until the end. If he had people like that at the start he would have been in better position.
The people that wrote bad books about him did so because the didn't see Trump as a long term movement that would help them get future jobs. Writing a tell all book helped them because there are so many places they can now go because they were anti-Trump.
Bob wrote: ↑Tue Nov 10, 2020 11:22 am
I think Trump legitimately lost.
You have nothing in which to base this claim. The MSM does not certify a winner. States have to certify an election to the FEC to declare a winner. This has not happened as no state has yet certified the election. Additionally, voter fraud on an unprecedented scale has been and is being exposed and in now in litigation to the SCOTUS. These are the facts as we now know them.
I'm sorry Dave, I guess you had something to base your claim that he will win on? See, that works both ways.
And for the record - I wouldn't be totally surprised if it did flip. Nacy might be sitting down right now having a talk with Biden saying "Listen Joe - the economy got trashed and we are all doing all the wrong things. we don't want to be in the big chair when that happens. You were not supposed to win. Some of those recounts are gonna go against you."
aerynsun wrote: ↑Tue Nov 10, 2020 6:01 pm
The hardest thing an outsider president has to do is get good people around him that will push his agenda. That was part of his problem; he first brought in insiders who didn't really support him. He didn't bet Barr and Pompeo until the end. If he had people like that at the start he would have been in better position.
I have a pretty keen eye for Hollywood and spin...so no, not really an influence on me. In fact, many of the good things he did were never even mentioned.
However - you raise a great point that I fully agree with. He drained the Swamp alright. He put some of the biggest gators and snakes in the swamp right in the Oval Office! And taking their advice was completely counter to doing what he said he would when elected. And then he followed that up with running a revolving door either because he didn't want to be disagreed with, or didn't trust his own advisors, or couldn't tell who to trust. Either way it doesn't matter.
Bob wrote: ↑Tue Nov 10, 2020 7:02 pm
I'm sorry Dave, I guess you had something to base your claim that he will win on?
Yes, did you read my post? There is ongoing litigation all the way to the SCOTUS, hundreds of cases of voter fraud, two different computer programs (incidentally connected to Pelosi, Fienstein and Clinton) that has been exposed for flipping votes in real time on prime time as well as using fractional counting to add votes to Biden along with postal and polling worker whistle blowers. So yes, there is quite a bit to base my claim on that oddly enough isn't making it onto MSM yet the litigation is going on as I type this post.
We will see as it unfolds. I believe we are going to see every battle ground state, and perhaps others that were called for Biden flipped to Trump when the illegal ballots are cast out and the true vote is shown. If that can't happen you might see another provision of the Constitution enacted which is the electoral votes decided by the State legislators i.e. 39 States have Republican controlled legislative Houses/Senates. And they would then have the authority to decide who the States electoral votes go to.
Either way, when it is announced Trump won the election (some are saying by 80% total) you are going to see riots and chaos.
A man cannot call himself peaceful if he is not capable of violence. If he's not capable of violence he isn't peaceful, he is harmless. There is a distinct difference.
Fate whispers to the warrior "You cannot weather this storm". The warrior replies, "I am the storm".
I can make a good "ANTIFA wants Trump to win" case....
We'll see. I'm putting $20 on Biden. I think the Powers That Be are not ready for the unbelievable explosions of violence that would occur if Trump got it.
Well, I'm again going to refer to 'Q' and his/their comments that people have to be shown rather than told. To say that the left has a voter fraud apparatus is one thing, for you to see it unfold in real-time before your eyes in prime time is quite another i.e. the MSM has proclaimed Biden the winner (despite no state actually certifying their elections) and then having to reverse and give it to Trump despite their proclamations and polls and talking heads. To say the left has an army to cause chaos (read Antifa/BLM) is one thing. To see it calm while Biden 'supposedly' won and then to see it erupt when he loses is very telling i.e. Trump supporters aren't burning and looting with Biden's supposed win, but you'll see it when Biden loses.
Thus this IS part of the plan to show the people what has been going on behind the scenes and to expose the corruption. This is just the beginning. Buckle up.
A man cannot call himself peaceful if he is not capable of violence. If he's not capable of violence he isn't peaceful, he is harmless. There is a distinct difference.
Fate whispers to the warrior "You cannot weather this storm". The warrior replies, "I am the storm".
aerynsun wrote: ↑Sat Nov 14, 2020 12:23 pm
After seeing the Wash. DC Trump rally - you have to wonder how Trump lost!
He did not lose. To expand on my previous post, in the event the election is deemed illegitimate, the vote becomes null and void. It then goes to the Congress. Each state gets one vote. Right now, 37 States are Republican controlled. I’m not saying this will be the route used, what I am saying is that this is Constitutional law and has been used twice in U.S. history. Once on 1800 and again in 1824. So if the election is deemed null and void due to a corrupt vote, which seems likely, this is the next step in the electoral process per the Constitution.
A man cannot call himself peaceful if he is not capable of violence. If he's not capable of violence he isn't peaceful, he is harmless. There is a distinct difference.
Fate whispers to the warrior "You cannot weather this storm". The warrior replies, "I am the storm".
I will say - THAT would be a GREAT way to destroy the country at this point in time.
1824? Oh - you mean when the Constitution still mattered....that is so sweet how you think that matters Dave. This is about winning. The Constitution hasn't mattered for a hundred years.
Still waiting. But man - that WOULD mean I did not load my vest and that 75rd drum for no reason....
