Armed ‘Patriots’ patrol Coeur d’Alene Idaho

[David]

https://cdapress.com/news/2020/jun/02/a ... -dalene-5/

by BILL BULEY
Staff Writer | June 2, 2020 1:15 AM

Men with semi-automatic weapons, handguns say they are here to protect city amid reports of militants heading this way

COEUR d’ALENE — Reports and rumors that groups bent on rioting and violence in Coeur d’Alene brought out men and women with guns on Monday determined to stop them if they arrive.

Dan Carson was patrolling Sherman Avenue with an AR-12 semi-automatic 12-gauge across his chest, an AR-15 strapped to his back, two 9mm handguns holstered and a .38 special, too.

“I heard there are some people on the way who shouldn’t be here,” he said early Monday evening.

Those people, he said, were Antifa and Proud Boys, militant far-left and far-right groups.

Carson said he was in Spokane Sunday night helping protect business there. He said he supports the right to protest and is also upset about the death of George Floyd.

“By all means. I’m on their side. I disagree with what happened,” he said. “What I don’t agree with is when you turn to violence, and you start rioting and destroying businesses and hurting people who have nothing to do with anything.

“That’s what I’m here to hopefully prevent,” he said, adding, “I’m not going to be alone. There’s a lot more on the way.”

He was right. Soon, more armed men, self-described as a loosely formed group of patriots, arrived. They took up posts at corners on both sides of Sherman Avenue.

Later, they were joined by hundreds of citizens packing rifles, semi-automatic weapons, handguns, and bows and arrows.

The sidewalks were packed with people walking up and down Sherman Avenue, firearms proudly displayed for all to see.

They carried guns, had them holstered around their hips and had them strapped across their backs.

It was literally a call to arms — and people responded. Armed citizens proudly turned up with guns and American flags. They sent a clear message: North Idaho will protect its own.

Brothers Austin Machado, carrying an AK-47, and Arick Machado, packing a 6.5 x 55mm Swedish rifle, stood in front of the Moose Lounge about 10 p.m.

“I just want to protect my favorite bar,” Austin Machado said. “I used to be a bouncer here. It’s my favorite bar and I’m going to protect it.”

Arick said they were also there to observe and act as a deterrent to any potential trouble.

“To show that you don’t throw cinder blocks through a bar window,” Austin said.

A few businesses had windows boarded up.

Four friends stood in front of All Things Irish holding an American flag.

“To support Americans and police that are protecting us,” said Hunter Williams when asked why they were there.

None of them had firearms.

“Peaceful protest, man,” said Caleb Hvizdos.

Earlier, more people gathered to protest outside WinCo on Appleway Avenue Monday afternoon.

Christy Robinson, holding a sign that read, “Black Lives Matter,” said “Many of the people I love are people of color. They’re part of my family, they’re part of my life and they’re in my heart.”

She said she understands why people are upset — and can feel their pain — about the racial injustice that continues to go on in America.

“It’s making me angrier and angrier,” Robinson said. “Instead of a horrible outlet like burning things or destroying them, I’m trying to have a positive outlet and just get my message out there.”

One woman holding a sign and wearing a mask declined to give her name.

“Everyone is equal in this world,” she said. “If people aren’t going to accept that, then we’re going to make it happen.”

Mylieanna Agee, who recently moved to Coeur d’Alene, said their goal was to create awareness of police brutality that’s going on in the world.

All lives matter, she said.

Her group had no desire to start trouble, Agee said.

“We’re just trying to keep it peaceful,” she said.

Earlier, in the WinCo parking lot, a group of about 40 men and women, some carrying semi-automatic weapons and handguns, stood watch due to what they said were threats of left-wing militant groups coming to start riots at the store.

“We came here as a show of force and as a deterrent to prevent that from happening,” said Trevor Treller, who had an AR-15 and a Glock 19 handgun. “Nobody here wants a confrontation and everyone here is wiling to engage in one if it ever should it come to that, or need to be. But nobody wants it and everyone prays it will never happen.”

Treller said they had been there for a few hours and nothing much had happened, expect some people “clad head to toe in black” drove by and shouted obscenities at them.

“They left. It’s quite possible they left because we’re here,” he said.

Treller described the group he was with as “a loosely joined group of patriots who love our state, love the city of Coeur d’Alene and won’t tolerate seeing any violence being perpetrated against it.”

“We just want to make sure nothing violent or nothing criminal happens in our city,” he said.

Like Carson, he said he had heard reports, verified by people in positions who would know, that people with Antifa were being bussed in “for the purposes of causing trouble and rioting.”

He noted that Spokane, where there were riots and looting late Sunday, is only 35 miles away.

“It’s not inconceivable that some very foolhardy, idiotic people in Spokane who are of a mind to commit violence would think they could get away with trying it here,” Treller said. “We’re here to tell them different.”

Pastor Tim Remington also was on hand.

“We’re just here to minister to people in case it starts getting heated,” he said. “We don’t want anybody getting hurt.”

Police arrived and told the group they had to leave the WinCo parking lot, as it was private property, so they went to Appleway, across the street from those holding Black Lives Matter signs. The two sides later reportedly came together.

As he walked away, a man who said his name was Rescue said he was there to make sure “everybody has a chance to speak their mind but not get out of control.”

Rescue carried an AR-15 and two .40-caliber handguns. He said he and his counterparts were prepared if trouble came to Coeur d’Alene.

“We have people all over town,” Rescue said. “The rumors are, they’re going to be in numerous places and they had a scout in here earlier counting our numbers and reporting to somebody.”

Brett Surplus of Coeur d’Alene, a former police officer, said he was there to defend people’s businesses and protect people’s right to free speech.

He said a show of force by armed citizens may prevent problems.

“We sit back long enough and see America not help their blue line because of the fear factor or they’re not armed,” he said. “This is where the end of the line stops in this state.”

Surplus said he is a hunter and fisherman and loves Idaho.

“I want to protect our way of life,” he said.

This story has been updated after it appeared in print to reflect that the weapons present were semi-automatic.

[David]

Take a look at this video of people protecting their businesses and community. Serious amount of fire power and serious people.

[Bob]

Core de what Idon'tknowhwhere?

Idaho? Whatever....

[Bob]

By the way - this is actually a bad bad idea. You have just demonstrated that .Gov is not necessary., Above all, Deep State don't like that...

[Mac66]

What that shows is the unorganized militia. That's the way things used to be. Citizens standing up to preserve order. If urban neighborhoods had militia organizations (neighborhood watches with guns) to ensure the peace and displace the gangs they would have less contact and less confrontations with the police. Of course the danger is always that the "militia" would turn into a gang or some third world paramiliiary death squad but we already have gangs.

But I agree with Bob. .gov won't stand for that for long.

[David]

A lot would depend on State and local laws. I looked at Idaho's laws. No permit is required for concealed or open carry.

https://www.idaho.gov/laws-public-safet ... eapon-law/

Looks like a permit is needed only if your carrying concealed in a vehicle with the gun loaded. So all those folks walking up and down the street open carrying pistols and rifles are well within their legal rights.

As of July 1, 2019, Idaho statute allows residents 18 years of age, not disqualified from having a permit, to carry a concealed firearm statewide without a permit. Permitless carry is already legal outside of city limits for individuals 18 or older, and open carry is currently legal within city limits.

A person does not have to have a concealed weapons license to carry or be in possession of a deadly weapon or firearm in the following circumstances:

Any deadly weapon located in plain view;
Any lawfully possessed shotgun or rifle;
A firearm that is not loaded and is concealed in a motor vehicle;
A firearm that is not loaded and is secured in a case;
A firearm that is disassembled or permanently altered such that it is not readily operable; and
A concealed handgun by a person who is:
Over eighteen (18)) years of age;
A resident of Idaho; and
Is not disqualified from being issued a license under subsection (11) of this section.

A person who does have a concealed weapons license may carry a deadly weapon or firearm concealed and loaded in a vehicle.

It is unlawful for any person to carry a concealed weapon on or about his person when intoxicated or under the influence of an intoxicating drink or drug.

Concealed weapon licenses are still available from your County Sheriff. Residents must secure one to gain reciprocity in other states. The license is valid for five years.

So .gov, at this time, would not have much of a leg to stand on. I don't know if there is a provision during 'emergencies' but at the time of the video, no local emergency was in existence. And an emergency i.e. Antifa coming to town probably wasn't likely due to the firepower displayed. So this was a good example of private citizens stepping up and preserving their community and way of life when an outside threat presented itself. That was likely the safest area of that city at that time.

[Gnepig]

Ok, I will say what everyone else is thinking about the vid clip: Looks like a bunch of mall ninjas...
And what is the gang symbol that the one dude is throwing up?

[David]

Seems to be working;

https://www.nbcnews.com/tech/social-med ... ket-newtab

[aerynsun]

Take a look at this video of people protecting their businesses and community. Serious amount of fire power and serious people.

I wish they would hold the phone horizontally, the way he has it is too jarring.

They need more options then guns. If a bunch of people show up and just break car windows; you can't shoot them.

They should be sporting bear spray, ASP batons also.

[Mac66]

I think these armed groups and the BLM protesters have a lot more in common than they think. Both are against government oppression. There has been plenty of instances where the armed groups have walked with and in essence protected the protesters. And you know what they say, "an armed society is a polite society".