So...been looking at UTVs i.e, side by sides but new ones are ridiculously expensive particularly the name brand ones, Polaris, Honda, Kawasaki etc. Even the used brand named ones are way out of line.
Started seeing ones at the big box hardware stores, Lowes, Home Depot, Tractor Supply, Rural King etc. Turns out the Colemans, Axis, Massimo, Vector and similar are all made by a Chinese company named Hisun. Same machines, slightly different looks and names. I call them the CCCs (cheap Chinese crap)
The advantage of the big box store UTVs is the price, usually around $9-12k as opposed to $15-30K for the brand names. Hisun machines include windshields, bumpers, tops, doors and winches all which cost extra as add ons to the name brand ones.
Tip...sometimes the CCCs go on sale and if you apply/get the BB store's credit card they will knock 10-20% off your first purchase which can be applied to their UTVs. So if you are going to buy a new CCC, consider this.
9K is still more than I wanted to pay but I set that as the limit I would pay for a used domestic brand. However, nearly all the name brand used ones I found at that price were either really old 10+ years or really beat up or both.
There are plenty of reviews on youtube and other places including facebook pages dedicated to the CCCs. I started looking at those as well. The reviews range from good to awful. Be aware that most people go online when they have a problem so negative reviews tend to dominate. There are some positive reviews however.
Apparently the CCCs are shipped to stores and the stores simply prep them. There sometimes seems to be issues with the prep/assembly process which seems to be the source of many problems.
Warning: While they do have limited warranties, none of the big box stores service/fix them. Service centers for these are few and far between. If they break you have to find someone or do it yourself. I was lucky and found a CCC service center 14 miles away if needed.
I ended up finding a used 2021 (Hisun) Axis 500 (which are sold by Lowes and is a copy of the Yamaha Rhino) listed on Facebook marketplace for $6500. It had been listed for something like 40 weeks. I contacted the guy back when it was first listed and he never responded. I contacted him again several months ago when I noticed it was still for sale. Finally I started searching for someone with the same last name. I found a relative and told them to tell him to respond which he did the next day.
The machine was pretty dirty but started right up and I took it for a ride. I had done my homework and checked everything and everything worked. After some discussion I made a low ball offer, he countered and we settled on $5K which I thought was very reasonable and worth the risk. So my persistence in finding the guy paid off. I figure the money I saved on this used CCC could be used to fix it later if needed.
That was last Friday. I did take it for a short ride but was busy with the 5K adventure race Friday aft and all day Saturday. Finally got it washed and rode it a little bit more on Sunday.
I pretty much bought it for my wife to use around the property. She doesn't like driving the ATV. This UTV is essentially a 4wd golf cart with a dump bed.
Going back up to the house on Thurs this week. I'll change the oil/fluids and filters just to start fresh.
Edited to add....my wife took a pic of it while I was washing it. Shown with the bed tilted. You can see from the driveway how dirty it was.