OK - so I read all of that. Nice work on the list of egregious statements. I read all of that. Bravo for all of you. Nice to know grass roots can work.
I still worry when people shut down information of any kind, true, false or otherwise. It never ends well. Often the difference between propaganda and truth is who sends it.
People are waking up and have had enough
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Sometimes I get lucky
Well, it is nice to know that grass roots can and does have an effect for positive change. Folks often repeat the adage, 'you can't fight city hall' but in truth..yes you can if you do it the right way. When enough folks band together for a common cause things get done. Reminds me of the history of this country.
I have no issues with false information being shut down. Because it's false information. And while history is written by the victor, truth is truth and propaganda is propaganda. The danger is in not knowing the difference.
A man cannot call himself peaceful if he is not capable of violence. If he's not capable of violence he isn't peaceful, he is harmless. There is a distinct difference.
Fate whispers to the warrior "You cannot weather this storm". The warrior replies, "I am the storm".
Fate whispers to the warrior "You cannot weather this storm". The warrior replies, "I am the storm".
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BLM-Antifa Rioters Target Upscale Restaurant in Louisville, Kentucky, At Least One Protester Is Armed! – Restaurant Patron Pulls a Pistol! (VIDEO)
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2021/0 ... -bring-go/
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2021/0 ... -bring-go/
A man cannot call himself peaceful if he is not capable of violence. If he's not capable of violence he isn't peaceful, he is harmless. There is a distinct difference.
Fate whispers to the warrior "You cannot weather this storm". The warrior replies, "I am the storm".
Fate whispers to the warrior "You cannot weather this storm". The warrior replies, "I am the storm".
Re: People are waking up and have had enough
OK - lets assume this is all as seems.
This is another great example of a guy being stupid. What is that? A .22 derringer?
What Antifa/BLM is doing is unacceptable. Not even gonna discuss that.
But what guy with gun is doing is pure foolish. Again - there is a time to stand your ground, and a time to not do that, and there is a time and a place for the use, or not, of certain weapons. This guy is a fail on both parts. This guy is as much an idiot as the St. Louis couple.
If that is waking up, he needs top roll over and go back to sleep.
This is another great example of a guy being stupid. What is that? A .22 derringer?
What Antifa/BLM is doing is unacceptable. Not even gonna discuss that.
But what guy with gun is doing is pure foolish. Again - there is a time to stand your ground, and a time to not do that, and there is a time and a place for the use, or not, of certain weapons. This guy is a fail on both parts. This guy is as much an idiot as the St. Louis couple.
If that is waking up, he needs top roll over and go back to sleep.
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bringing a squirt gun to a gun fight IMO... foolish
I would have exited quietly
I would have exited quietly
You can't fix stupid !
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Not the way to go. The OODA loop is the cycle observe–orient–decide–act,
1. situational awareness
2. decision to stay and fight or flee. Observing who is the Alpha person and the number two Alpha person
3. act decisively. No bluffing.
Classmate who was trained with me in OODA loop. Held up at gunpoint at a gas station. Drew from concealed and killed the perp on the spot.
You do not bluff. Saw a guy display a switchblade at the start of a fight. Opponent kicked the knife out of the perp's hand, picked it up and the fight was over.
In this case, after a look around for an object so as to not hurt his hand, deliver a hard blow to a male or female's genitals and then take on number two. The rest will run.
Also in this case, following OODA, you do not talk. Let the other guy talk. A person cannot talk and fight at the same time. Seize the opportunity to launch an attack while the opponent is talking. Do not grapple. Try not to use your hands.
Now you have been told how an old duffer can beat a kid young enough to be his grandson.
1. situational awareness
2. decision to stay and fight or flee. Observing who is the Alpha person and the number two Alpha person
3. act decisively. No bluffing.
Classmate who was trained with me in OODA loop. Held up at gunpoint at a gas station. Drew from concealed and killed the perp on the spot.
You do not bluff. Saw a guy display a switchblade at the start of a fight. Opponent kicked the knife out of the perp's hand, picked it up and the fight was over.
In this case, after a look around for an object so as to not hurt his hand, deliver a hard blow to a male or female's genitals and then take on number two. The rest will run.
Also in this case, following OODA, you do not talk. Let the other guy talk. A person cannot talk and fight at the same time. Seize the opportunity to launch an attack while the opponent is talking. Do not grapple. Try not to use your hands.
Now you have been told how an old duffer can beat a kid young enough to be his grandson.
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Was it the best pistol to have at the time? No, that's obvious. If you're going to have a deep concealment pistol then something along the lines of a Ruger LCP would have been a better choice. Be that as it may, it's what the man had on him at the time. I would imagine it was a harrowing and chaotic scene. Was he justified? I can't say one way or another. I would be inclined to believe that it was justified. First, you have an armed, violent mob invading your personal space. That's enough right there. Was he able to leave? He could have had a disability. Could have been protecting someone with a disability. Or he could simply be a man that has had enough and stood his ground.
I remember a video last year of BLM/Antifa marching through a residential neighborhood. The people that lived there weren't having any of that nonsense and ALL of them stood in a line down the street and they were armed to the teeth. Pistols on their sides and long guns slung and in hand. The useful idiot protesters were quiet as a church mouse as they walked down the street. None of that yelling and chanting and threatening crap. They were the ones intimidated which is what happens when the silent majority decides not to be silent anymore.
I remember a video last year of BLM/Antifa marching through a residential neighborhood. The people that lived there weren't having any of that nonsense and ALL of them stood in a line down the street and they were armed to the teeth. Pistols on their sides and long guns slung and in hand. The useful idiot protesters were quiet as a church mouse as they walked down the street. None of that yelling and chanting and threatening crap. They were the ones intimidated which is what happens when the silent majority decides not to be silent anymore.
A man cannot call himself peaceful if he is not capable of violence. If he's not capable of violence he isn't peaceful, he is harmless. There is a distinct difference.
Fate whispers to the warrior "You cannot weather this storm". The warrior replies, "I am the storm".
Fate whispers to the warrior "You cannot weather this storm". The warrior replies, "I am the storm".
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It can be of value in close in situations. Look at how George Zimmerman used his gun.Bob wrote: ↑Sun May 02, 2021 10:01 pm OK - lets assume this is all as seems.
This is another great example of a guy being stupid. What is that? A .22 derringer?
What Antifa/BLM is doing is unacceptable. Not even gonna discuss that.
But what guy with gun is doing is pure foolish. Again - there is a time to stand your ground, and a time to not do that, and there is a time and a place for the use, or not, of certain weapons. This guy is a fail on both parts. This guy is as much an idiot as the St. Louis couple.
If that is waking up, he needs top roll over and go back to sleep.
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It can be of value in close in situations.
Yep. Anything is possible. When I was in Columbia years ago, I walked with a very small .22 short pistol in my hand which concealed within the hand. The concept was to initiate contact which would be unexpected.
Then, when I write about a folder knife (and I was a dealer), I get the garbage about taking a knife to a gun fight. This is from guys who have never, ever been timed. So, I post the times. With a couple of hours of training, a man can get down the timing on drawing a knife from a pocket carry on a clip to base of a person's throat faster than most people imagine. I could do it in 1.1 second. Women do it faster. How about drawing from concealed carry under a jacket to shooting dead center? I was slow. .65 second. The fastest guy was .3 second. When you study OODA Loop and practice you can do a lot.
Example. I went up against a guy in training. I was asked to have a deployed knife in front of me and be talking. He consistently was able to take the knife away faster than I could see it done.
So, stop the quibbling people. The overweight guy displayed a gun hoping it would discourage people. I wouldn't do it. It is bluffing. Bluffing is like making a decision to get a virus shot or decline. Once you make the decision, you can't go back and change it.
Yep. Anything is possible. When I was in Columbia years ago, I walked with a very small .22 short pistol in my hand which concealed within the hand. The concept was to initiate contact which would be unexpected.
Then, when I write about a folder knife (and I was a dealer), I get the garbage about taking a knife to a gun fight. This is from guys who have never, ever been timed. So, I post the times. With a couple of hours of training, a man can get down the timing on drawing a knife from a pocket carry on a clip to base of a person's throat faster than most people imagine. I could do it in 1.1 second. Women do it faster. How about drawing from concealed carry under a jacket to shooting dead center? I was slow. .65 second. The fastest guy was .3 second. When you study OODA Loop and practice you can do a lot.
Example. I went up against a guy in training. I was asked to have a deployed knife in front of me and be talking. He consistently was able to take the knife away faster than I could see it done.
So, stop the quibbling people. The overweight guy displayed a gun hoping it would discourage people. I wouldn't do it. It is bluffing. Bluffing is like making a decision to get a virus shot or decline. Once you make the decision, you can't go back and change it.
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Zimmerman actually used a reliable caliber. I'm saying pulling a rinky-dinky little .22 in a crowd of hostiles where if only 2-10 has a Glock, will get you killed. He is lucky, not bold.aerynsun wrote: ↑Thu May 06, 2021 2:36 pmIt can be of value in close in situations. Look at how George Zimmerman used his gun.Bob wrote: ↑Sun May 02, 2021 10:01 pm OK - lets assume this is all as seems.
This is another great example of a guy being stupid. What is that? A .22 derringer?
What Antifa/BLM is doing is unacceptable. Not even gonna discuss that.
But what guy with gun is doing is pure foolish. Again - there is a time to stand your ground, and a time to not do that, and there is a time and a place for the use, or not, of certain weapons. This guy is a fail on both parts. This guy is as much an idiot as the St. Louis couple.
If that is waking up, he needs top roll over and go back to sleep.
I will stick with Pappy's advice. Don't point a gun if you are not going to pull the trigger. Don't pull the trigger if you do not intend to kill someone.
So if I feel the need to draw - you are getting shot. Drawing without shooting is for police and fools. He is not a cop. And the pic (assuming not shopped show AT LEAST one guy that could have put 15 rnds of 9mm his way.
He should have left. A crowd like that is there to get you to react, and they were undoubtedly prepared, physically, emotionally, and even legally.
Your "rights" don't keep you alive. It was a bad place to be, and a dumb thing to do.