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Re: Not looking good for Trump
Posted: Tue Jan 12, 2021 9:47 pm
by Bob
The military takes orders from the commander in chief. That's Biden next week. And that letter [link fixed] basically says they are following the orders of the lawfully elected Biden and his Congressional controllers. So actually, they are taking orders from Pelosi.
And they basically devalued anyone who isn't lawful - so the military in the capital are dirt to them.
https://assets.documentcloud.org/docume ... -12-21.pdf
I get the morality of it Dave - but the majority of the armed forces need eat and don't want shot for treason. Live and eat beat honor death and starvation with 90% of all humans any day of the weak.
Re: Not looking good for Trump
Posted: Tue Jan 12, 2021 10:02 pm
by David
You are welcome to believe what you want to believe.
Re: Not looking good for Trump
Posted: Wed Jan 13, 2021 8:42 pm
by Bob
I believe the House just voted to impeach again. What do you believe?
Re: Not looking good for Trump
Posted: Wed Jan 13, 2021 9:32 pm
by David
I believe it won't matter.
Re: Not looking good for Trump
Posted: Wed Jan 13, 2021 10:11 pm
by Bob
David wrote: ↑Wed Jan 13, 2021 9:32 pm
I believe it won't matter.
On this we agree!
Re: Not looking good for Trump
Posted: Thu Jan 14, 2021 9:02 am
by tom mac
Main reason I see the impeachment is to eliminate Trump from possibly returning in 2024...
It won't matter now as I still don't see the number of votes in Senate to convict ( if even legal to do it after he's gone from office )
Re: Not looking good for Trump
Posted: Thu Jan 14, 2021 10:16 am
by David
One has to evaluate what is happening. Supposedly President Trump lost the election. Yet, the left is in a panic to have him removed prior to the inauguration. Why the panic? And yes, it is a blind panic. Pelosi gave VP Pence 24 hours to invoke the 25th Amendment, despite there not being any standing to do so. The VP of course did not. So now it's a rushed impeachment. Why? Yes, if convicted it would prevent him from running in 2024. But it's more than that, they want him gone four years ago, not four years from now. This election was, of course, stolen. Only a fanatic to the left would say it isn't. So if they get away with it now they can get away with it in four years, so Trump would really not be an issue in 2024 because they can simply cheat their way to victory without consequence. No, the impeachment is about NOW. Remove him at all cost. Why? What does the left fear he's going to do? What do they fear he is going to reveal?
Some may scoff, and that's fine, but I don't believe President Trump came this far to lose now. I believe he knew, in real time, the fraud and has the evidence. Too much has been happening behind the scenes in Germany and Italy as well as here. I'm not sure if anyone outside his immediate circle knows the entire plan and that's okay. I believe that he is about to drop the hammer or as it's been put, play the Trump card. I do not believe Biden will be the President for the next four years, or Harris for that matter. I believe Trump will be the President for at least the next four years, perhaps eight. I base this on many things. I have not given up, and will not give up the faith.
Re: Not looking good for Trump
Posted: Thu Jan 14, 2021 12:14 pm
by bdcochran
The fight is about power.
I will not discuss either impeachment. However, I do understand the danger of a disrupter president leaving office. He is a bit like Andrew Jackson.
I hope that this week, he issues the following orders and I will state the reasons:
1. release all the JFK suppressed files.
2. release the UFO files.
3. commute sentences of all federal prisoners with one year to go of incarceration
4. finish processing the pardon and commutation applications that were not reviewed by the Obama Administration.
5. proactively delete many previous presidential executive orders.
Many years ago, the Republican Party had a stiff policy of no dealings with Red China. This, of course, ignored the pragmatic fact that Red China was transshipping products to the US via Hong Kong. When Mr. Nixon dealt with the reality, the same Republicans were ecstatic that he showed leadership. Sometimes, doing what the other party advocated makes you look good.
You just witnessed that a bunch of federal prisoners could be evaluated and released early because of an epidemic. Obama got a lot of praise for saying he would review and commute sentences - and left thousands of petitions unread. Just steal a page from the Democrats. Commute or pardon more people. The education and work learning opportunities aren't so great in federal prisons. There is no Club Fed. If someone gets a paying job in prison, the compensation is less than $.50 an hour. Somehow the country survived with only 20,000 federal prisoners in the depression and now there are over 200,000 federal prisoners.
Create a situation that Mr. Biden has to reverse final orders of Mr. Trump. Then Mr. Biden will be the goat.
Re: Not looking good for Trump
Posted: Thu Jan 14, 2021 10:10 pm
by Bob
The only thing missing from the inauguration, from what I have seen about these sorts of events all over the world, is Nuclear missiles on parade...
Isn't this what it looks like in China or Russia? I suppose this is totally different, because, well, this is America. We don't do things like that. Totally different situation.
Or.....is this the part where the soldiers all pull their guns, turn them on Biden, Harris, and Congress, and Trump swoops in for the big finale!!!!!!
Re: Not looking good for Trump
Posted: Fri Jan 15, 2021 7:46 am
by tom mac