Coronavirus

[Bmyers]

There will bet no serious post analysis of this. IF that is all true, more or less, do you close anything and impose distance rules?

I would hope in years to come that there are a lot of serious studies on what was done right and what was done wrong, that is the only way you learn to not make the same mistakes.

As far as moving forward, I think we have established putting a vulnerable population together in close quarters is a bad idea. I think we have learned that for most people under 50, that the risk is minimal and that closing down everything creates an equal or greater risk. I think, my opinion, outside exposures are minimal, but the potential for exposures in areas with limited airflow could be greater. I think limitations on outside events should be removed. I still haven't come to a conclusion of indoor events.

[Bob]

You know...this country has not learned from the mistake of letting your Government grow too powerful - which was a major reason the country was founded. So I'm not real optimistic...

[Bmyers]

I see Florida is becoming a major hotspot

https://www.foxnews.com/us/florida-hosp ... oronavirus

[David]

I see Florida is becoming a major hotspot

https://www.foxnews.com/us/florida-hosp ... oronavirus

Only because the Republican National Convention is scheduled in Jacksonville. It's been coming out that the numbers are being cooked in a big way.

[Bmyers]

Interesting.

I know the local teacher unions are having a fit because the school districts are wanting to re-open. The STL union is supposedly demanding a class size of no greater than 10 students and my understanding is that their classes usually run over 40.

It will be interesting to see what happens. My thoughts, if we aren't opening the schools, then we need to be getting rid of a lot of teachers and reducing our taxes.

[David]

Yeah, everyone is trying to cash in on the crisis. Now that it's coming out more and more to the public that the numbers are being cooked and that leftist officials are basically committing murder (forcing nursing home patients with the virus back into nursing homes rather that alternate facilities that were specifically set up to receive Covid patients PLUS trying to ban or prevent the distribution of HCQ) I think we're going to be seeing heads roll.

[bdcochran]

It has been gradual. It will accelerate.
1. there are probably very good reasons to have small classes and personal guidance. The reality is that if that can not be done, there are alternatives:
a. making school voluntary;
b. raising taxes;
c. find a way to teach on line and get rid of in person instruction.

2. This last week, I was taking a free, on line, class from MIT 3000 miles away. I was taking a medical class at Cedar Sinai Hospital and the annual cost of the Zoom lectures is $28. I have a daily newspaper in written and spoken French for $5 a month. The French channel with the daily news, documentaries, how-to-dos is $10 a month on cable.

3. You live in a world of greatly diminished bank clerks, secretaries, dictation units, taxi drivers, assembly line human workers. The middle class school teachers with their heretofore powerful unions are about to enter a different era. The world is going to be turned upside down for them.
As Bob Dylan said, you don't need a weather vane to know which way the wind is blowing. Over the years, you have heard the rhetoric "it's for the children" when the real concerns were wages, working conditions and retirement, without any teacher or teacher union suggestions to improve the education of children. Well, things are going to change and rapidly.

[Bmyers]

I have to agree, it is time to reconsider how schools are done. Many kids now days are more intune with a laptop than a book. Why keep costly schools and large staff when you can accomplish the same thing or better online. The biggest challenge, it takes parents that are willing to hold their kids accountable verses just dropping them off at school and making it the teacher's problem.

[David]

It has come out that children are less likely to catch and/or transmit Covid. And since Covid is really and statistically less threatening that the flu, combined with building up resistance to it i.e. herd immunity as well as several drugs like HCQ that work...it should be a non-issue. The only reason it IS an issue is politics.

[Bob]

Population: 975,000
Cases: 12700
Deaths: 300

Chance of Contracting: .013 - or 1%
If Contracted, Chance of Dying: .023 - or 2%
OVERALL CHANCE OF DYING FROM COVID IN PINELLAS COUNTY: .0003%. That is Not 3%. that's .03%, or 3 in 10,000.

When did Bob say that first? Look it up in this thread. Now - That is OVERALL. Stratofy that data by age and you'll be stunned at the BS around this.

And before you freak out about the ICU occupancy, it is USUALLY around 65%. So when you hear 85%...yeah that up 33%, but it isn't 120%. And a lot of that space is going to keeping a 78yr old stage 3 cancer patient alive.