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Re: Not looking good for Trump
Posted: Thu Dec 17, 2020 10:05 am
by Mac66
Bob wrote: ↑Wed Dec 16, 2020 9:33 pm
aerynsun wrote: ↑Wed Dec 16, 2020 12:29 pm
David wrote: ↑Wed Dec 16, 2020 10:56 am
. If you haven't noticed, he goes after red and blue equally when they aren't doing what they were elected or appointed to do for the people.
And that is why he got hit by both sides.
The dems are going to go after him after he is out, to scare others like him. Don't screw with us because we will grind you into the dust.
And the Republicans will support that. Because the Oligarchs in Tech and Banks do not want anyone effing with their livelihood the way he did. I have not been confused for a long long time that they were in charge. This is a Neo Fascist nation, where the Production people control the government, unlike classical Fascism where the government controlled production.
That pain Dave feels is cognitive dissonance. He still wants to believe that isn't so. And now he sees how bad it really is. So he has to cling to imaginary ropes or admit the great freedom experiment is over. I think it will 12-20 moves before check mate. But the game is over.
I still say this slows the game. Four more years of Trump would have lead to swelling Democrat Victory with a real Candidate. That would have been real bad...
This country isn't Neo-Fascist its neo-Socialist. And I'm not sure many people understand that fascism (national socialism) and communist socialism (Lenin said the goal of socialism is communism) are two branches of the same tree i.e totalitarianism, the far left end of the political spectrum. We are clearly moving to the far left under socialism (communist style).
Trump is no fascist, he is a free market capitalist. I never liked him but he did some good things to turn the economy around and bolster our strength abroad. If he'd just kept his mouth shut he'd have been re-elected.
Re: Not looking good for Trump
Posted: Thu Dec 17, 2020 10:13 am
by David
Bob wrote: ↑Wed Dec 16, 2020 9:33 pm
That pain Dave feels is cognitive dissonance. He still wants to believe that isn't so. And now he sees how bad it really is. So he has to cling to imaginary ropes or admit the great freedom experiment is over.
What pain am I feeling? I don't recall saying I was in pain or distress. Quite the contrary, I'm totally fine with what is happening. It had to happen this way. You cannot arrest a criminal before he commits the crime.
Trump won this election in a complete, overwhelming landslide. I'm going to estimate 100 million votes and perhaps close to, if not all the states. However, what would it have accomplished if the cheating had not prevented this second win? To back up a bit, there was cheating in the 2016 election but they were caught unprepared for the sheer number of votes that would have been needed to win the electoral college. Thus they were unable to make up the difference. Trump won. Now this time around, Trump allows the cheating they know is going to happen. Indeed, they relied on it. And to cheat enough to win they made a lot of mistakes that we now see coming to like. We see votes getting switched. We see error rates of nearly 70%. We see suitcases full of votes being pulled out from under a table. We see suppression of the poll watchers. We see Governors, not just Dems but Reps showing their true colors. We see Mitch McConnell showing his true colors as well as other Reps. We see Governors and Secretaries of States that rushed to certify an vote they knew was contested thus knowingly committing a crime. This wasn't just an election, it was a sting operation. A LOT of things happened which are now causing serious repercussions on both sides of the isle. This
needed to happen.
Now we can clearly see who is on Trump's side and who isn't. The election is not in doubt, never was. Trump will be the one taking the Oath of Office next month, not Biden. Then let the dogs loose because it's time to clean up everything that was set up during his first four years. He has it all in place, which was needed.
So you're asking how I'm going to adjust/accept a Biden presidency? It's not going to happen so it's a moot point.
Re: Not looking good for Trump
Posted: Thu Dec 17, 2020 12:30 pm
by Bob
Mac66 wrote: ↑Thu Dec 17, 2020 10:05 am
Bob wrote: ↑Wed Dec 16, 2020 9:33 pm
aerynsun wrote: ↑Wed Dec 16, 2020 12:29 pm
And that is why he got hit by both sides.
The dems are going to go after him after he is out, to scare others like him. Don't screw with us because we will grind you into the dust.
And the Republicans will support that. Because the Oligarchs in Tech and Banks do not want anyone effing with their livelihood the way he did. I have not been confused for a long long time that they were in charge. This is a Neo Fascist nation, where the Production people control the government, unlike classical Fascism where the government controlled production.
That pain Dave feels is cognitive dissonance. He still wants to believe that isn't so. And now he sees how bad it really is. So he has to cling to imaginary ropes or admit the great freedom experiment is over. I think it will 12-20 moves before check mate. But the game is over.
I still say this slows the game. Four more years of Trump would have lead to swelling Democrat Victory with a real Candidate. That would have been real bad...
This country isn't Neo-Fascist its neo-Socialist. And I'm not sure many people understand that fascism (national socialism) and communist socialism (Lenin said the goal of socialism is communism) are two branches of the same tree i.e totalitarianism, the far left end of the political spectrum. We are clearly moving to the far left under socialism (communist style).
Trump is no fascist, he is a free market capitalist. I never liked him but he did some good things to turn the economy around and bolster our strength abroad. If he'd just kept his mouth shut he'd have been re-elected.
Classic Fascism: The State controls the means of production
Neo-Fascism: The Means of production controls the state
Our "State" is controlled by Microsoft, FB, Google, BOA, etc....
Neo Fascist. Trump ≠ The State.
Businesses control the laws that get written, the taxes that get paid, the wars we get into. Not Trump. Not Congress.
Re: Not looking good for Trump
Posted: Thu Dec 17, 2020 12:36 pm
by Bob
David wrote: ↑Thu Dec 17, 2020 10:13 am
So you're asking how I'm going to adjust/accept a Biden presidency? It's not going to happen so it's a moot point.
Denial
Anger
Bargaining
Depression
Acceptance
One can't appropriately deal with change until one hits acceptance. Even if Trump won, and I honestly think he may have...it was not a landslide.
Who is on Trump's side? Answer - people on the side-lines. He is out of the game.
And exactly how are you not going to "accept" Biden's presidency?
- Stop paying taxes?
- Move to Canada?
- Disobey any law that he signs?
- Take up arms?
Do tell....not that much he does will actually directly impact you.
Re: Not looking good for Trump
Posted: Thu Dec 17, 2020 12:42 pm
by David
I guess we shall shortly see...
Re: Not looking good for Trump
Posted: Thu Dec 17, 2020 6:25 pm
by Bob
David wrote: ↑Thu Dec 17, 2020 12:42 pm
I guess we shall shortly see...
I see what you did there! When Trump wins we'll never know....
Re: Not looking good for Trump
Posted: Sat Dec 19, 2020 11:35 am
by David
Looks like there are multiple Congressman and Senators that are going to be challenging the electoral vote on January 6th. Mitch McConnell has exposed himself as a swamp creature by trying to block any Senator from raising a challenge. His wife is Chinese by the way and it looks like he's taken money from the Chinese.
This is why I have said previously that things had to go this way in order to expose those who are with and those that are against Trump. It's worked!
As far as the title of the OP, looks like this is going to go into January as well so be prepared everyone. It isn't over yet.
Re: Not looking good for Trump
Posted: Sun Dec 20, 2020 3:21 pm
by Bob
Noted that it isn't over yet. I appaud your ability to see the sunshine sneaking through the crack in a closing door.
Mitch McConnel exposed himself as a Swamp Creature? Even Rand Paul is a Swamp creature....NOTHING lives in the Swamp except Swamp creatures. This is what I'm saying. The same cast of Swamp creatures is there that has always been there, and will be there after Trump is gone. The only thing that left the Swamp is Trump!
Hang in there Dave. We'll be here to consolidate you in January after the US as you still perceive it to exist ends. Go watch the Matrix in the meantime.
I'll be first in line to apologize for doubting if it goes your way.
Re: Not looking good for Trump
Posted: Sun Dec 20, 2020 3:23 pm
by David
Bob wrote: ↑Sun Dec 20, 2020 3:21 pm
I'll be first in line to apologize for doubting if it goes your way.
Re: Not looking good for Trump
Posted: Sun Dec 20, 2020 6:57 pm
by fishingjeff
Bob, I'll be second in line.