Survival and Emergency Preparedness

Erich wrote: ↑Tue Sep 20, 2022 8:36 pm

Ronin.45 wrote: ↑Tue Sep 20, 2022 4:23 pm I've noticed a distinct advantage with shoulder contact. I'd like to see anyone who claims otherwise run a carbine stage both ways back to back.

Of course there's an advantage to another point of contact - I don't think anyone would argue seriously that there's not.

But, apples and oranges. Let's talk cost/benefit for what's no more than a 200-yard gun for me (I have rifles for distance, but the AR pistol is for when I'm wandering in the boonies and don't want to schlep a long gun): very fast hits out to 200 with my slung-in, push-me/pull-you technique, no SBR legal BS (so I can take it out of state - which is an issue for me - without getting an AFTFE Mother-May-I permission slip), no significant recoil issues from the 300 BLK/5.56 guns I'm running that require mitigation, resulting in an absolutely tiny gun for keeping in down-low cases in the car . . . this works for me, even if it wouldn't be the best thing in a carbine stage.

I mean, your carbine is going to be at a disadvantage for accuracy compared to an unlimited benchrest railgun - but "That's not the point, my friend," as the man said. For me this is a fast gun with firepower that hits acceptably hard (give me 300 BLK over 5.56 for auto glass any day) for when I'm out in the middle of nowhere with my ass in the wind. For carbine courses and gun gaming, you're certainly better off with the stock. Home defense? I think stock-free works better.

Some examples of where I take it - I assure you I'm at least an hour from the nearest cop

Ronin.45 wrote: ↑Wed Sep 21, 2022 12:51 pm

The addition of a brace would make your fast, accurate gun even faster and more accurate. It also wouldn't change the weight or length much for carrying or stowing. They are still perfectly legal and any BS the ATF tries to push through will immediately be challenged in court. I'll wait for a final verdict and actual law changes before giving up the advantage of the brace.
The "carbine stage" was just a suggested demonstration of these advantages. Some people will make claims of speed or accuracy and then realize they don't know what those are when the timer is running.