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Re: As militia formed by police, veterans in Virginia explodes, so are others across America

Posted: Mon Dec 23, 2019 7:57 pm
by Bob
David wrote: Sat Dec 21, 2019 7:11 am
Bob wrote: Fri Dec 20, 2019 11:22 pm
Bmyers wrote: Thu Dec 19, 2019 9:46 am It will be interesting to see what develops as we get closer to the election.
See - here is the problem; You think the Right ISN'T after them. The GOVERNMENT does not want you armed. The RIGht just has other priorities because the LEFT is fighting that battle.

There has been no mega-right outrage or any such thing that anyone defending your 2nd Amendment right would/could/should do. Why not? Because Left and Right = .Gov and the last thing anyone in power wants is to lose that power. And an Armed citizenry is a threat to that, for exactly the reason the founding father's put it in there.

The right just knows that via Government Education in another generation or two they will be able to vote these things out with impunity. No need to rush.
You seem to think that you're the only one on the board that realizes the government is corrupt on both sides of the isle. Not sure why this would be your assumption?
because I don't think I have ever seen an anti-right comment from you ever and you are going to vote for Trump. Again... :lol:

Re: As militia formed by police, veterans in Virginia explodes, so are others across America

Posted: Mon Dec 23, 2019 9:39 pm
by David
Bob wrote: Mon Dec 23, 2019 7:57 pm because I don't think I have ever seen an anti-right comment from you ever and you are going to vote for Trump. Again... :lol:
There is a difference between knowing there is corruption in the government and having a moral and political stance i.e. conservative. I would not make an anti-right (aka anti-conservative) comment because I believe in conservatism. That does not mean I can't see individuals, that claim to be on the right, are corrupt. President Trump does not fall into that category and yes, I will vote for him again.

Re: As militia formed by police, veterans in Virginia explodes, so are others across America

Posted: Tue Dec 24, 2019 9:50 am
by Mac66
Bob wrote: Fri Dec 20, 2019 11:22 pm
Bmyers wrote: Thu Dec 19, 2019 9:46 am It will be interesting to see what develops as we get closer to the election.
See - here is the problem; You think the Right ISN'T after them. The GOVERNMENT does not want you armed. The RIGht just has other priorities because the LEFT is fighting that battle.

There has been no mega-right outrage or any such thing that anyone defending your 2nd Amendment right would/could/should do. Why not? Because Left and Right = .Gov and the last thing anyone in power wants is to lose that power. And an Armed citizenry is a threat to that, for exactly the reason the founding father's put it in there.

The right just knows that via Government Education in another generation or two they will be able to vote these things out with impunity. No need to rush.
You are confusing "the right" with Republicans. The "right" is actually for less government and the "left" is for more government. The far left is socialism be it national socialism i.e, fascism or communism. The far right is anarchy i.e. no government at all. Traditionally Republicans have been somewhere in the middle, maybe a little right of center, but have steadily moved to the left since the 1960s.The DemocRats have always been left of center but have moved way left since the 1960s. Most people fall somewhere in the middle if not a little left of center these days.

The funny thing is that liberal and conservative by definition are opposite of what they are now. Liberals should be for less government and conservatives traditionally have been for more government. Now both are for more government i.e, control. The only ones for less govt are disenfranchised former conservatives/republicans, libertarians and anarchists.

Gun rights have actually gotten better in the last 30 years with the introduction of shall issue concealed carry and constitutional carry in many states now. We have beaten down restrictive gun laws but the left like rust never sleeps trying to erode what we've gained back. The point is that as corrupt as either party may be we can never give up the fight to keep out 2nd amendment rights and push back restrictions. We've been able to push back for the last 30 years or so. Let's not throw in the towel now just because of some new left wing rhetoric.

Re: As militia formed by police, veterans in Virginia explodes, so are others across America

Posted: Thu Dec 26, 2019 12:51 pm
by Bob
You guys make a very good point that I bring up all the time:

Democrats have coopted the terms Liberal and Left
Republicans have coopted the terms Conservative and Right

And the actual words, conservative v liberal really have no meaning outside a context. Fiscal Conservatives, for example. By coopting the language people can control the thought in some ways. every dictatorship gets control of language and definitions. They will decide what the words mean, and what you can/can't say.

You guys would like me when I call out business BS. I usually show slides with the foundational dictionary definitions of words.

Re: As militia formed by police, veterans in Virginia explodes, so are others across America

Posted: Fri Dec 27, 2019 4:08 pm
by David
Virginia increases corrections budget in anticipation of jailing gun owners

https://video.foxnews.com/v/61184406290 ... show-clips

Re: As militia formed by police, veterans in Virginia explodes, so are others across America

Posted: Fri Dec 27, 2019 4:14 pm
by David
Police officer to Virginia politicians: We took an oath, and real cops won’t confiscate firearms.

https://www.lawenforcementtoday.com/pol ... -firearms/

Re: As militia formed by police, veterans in Virginia explodes, so are others across America

Posted: Sat Dec 28, 2019 4:05 pm
by Mac66

Re: As militia formed by police, veterans in Virginia explodes, so are others across America

Posted: Sun Dec 29, 2019 9:23 am
by Bob
You guys are having a rally for my birthday? Thanks...you really didn't need to though!

Re: As militia formed by police, veterans in Virginia explodes, so are others across America

Posted: Wed Jan 01, 2020 9:21 pm
by Quasar86
Here's something else. Got an email from the Organic Prepper about this. Don't have firm confirmation but many references come up on a web search

https://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/unite ... -new-york/

https://www.google.com/search?q=un+hiri ... e&ie=UTF-8

Re: As militia formed by police, veterans in Virginia explodes, so are others across America

Posted: Fri Jan 03, 2020 11:07 am
by David
Quasar86 wrote: Wed Jan 01, 2020 9:21 pm Here's something else. Got an email from the Organic Prepper about this. Don't have firm confirmation but many references come up on a web search

https://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/unite ... -new-york/

https://www.google.com/search?q=un+hiri ... e&ie=UTF-8
Sounds like a mercenaries wet dream come true :shock: