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Re: People are waking up and have had enough

Posted: Sat Apr 10, 2021 8:16 am
by Bob
David wrote: Fri Apr 09, 2021 6:21 pm
Bob wrote: Thu Apr 08, 2021 8:44 pm Like the government will give up power and authority that easy.
I'm sure they won't give it up easy. But as they say, anything worth having is worth fighting for. Our forefathers did. This is not a call to violence, but it is a call to be diligent and keep a close eye on things as they develop.
Our Forefathers were educated, rugged, individualists who desired to be free to do as they chose above all else, and not have the government infringing on them in numerous ways.

That isn't who this country is anymore. And they were more than willing not to fight. But once all other avenues were expended, that's what was left.

They fought for far less than we consider completely normal and acceptable today.

Re: People are waking up and have had enough

Posted: Sat Apr 10, 2021 10:19 am
by tom mac
People don't want to fight for fear of losing what they have but in the end end up losing anyway.

Ever look up 'how to catch wild pigs' ?

Re: People are waking up and have had enough

Posted: Mon Apr 12, 2021 1:50 am
by Bob
Like I have said. Once the LAtte stops flowing...then we'll have a problem. But it won't be that there is no Latte, and it will be too late to fix it.

Re: People are waking up and have had enough

Posted: Mon Apr 12, 2021 12:14 pm
by David
It's pretty easy to have a defeatist attitude. It requires strength of conviction to stand strong and fight the good fight.

Re: People are waking up and have had enough

Posted: Mon Apr 12, 2021 4:21 pm
by Bob
The thing is - no body is really fighting any fight. except maybe twitter wars of FB posts arguing with each other.

Like they say in the Matrix - they never unplug anyone who is too old, or doesn't want to really know.

Re: People are waking up and have had enough

Posted: Mon Apr 12, 2021 6:19 pm
by David
Bob wrote: Mon Apr 12, 2021 4:21 pm The thing is - no body is really fighting any fight. except maybe twitter wars of FB posts arguing with each other.

Like they say in the Matrix - they never unplug anyone who is too old, or doesn't want to really know.
But that isn't exactly true. There is 'fighting' going on, on many fronts. You're just not a part of it, unfortunately. I'll give you just a couple of examples. Florida Family Association has an ongoing email campaign against the Huffington Post. And this is just one campaign they have that is ongoing. I've been involved with them for years. As a result of FFA contacting advertisers spending ad dollars on HP, they have persuaded almost 1000 advertisers to drop their advertising with HP. As a result, HP has had to dramatically downsize their staff and have almost gone the way of the dodo. They were recently purchased by Buzz Feed that immediately had to do a massive cash infusion that apparently hasn't worked. In short, HP is hemorrhaging cash and may soon be closing up shop.

HuffPost Canada shuts down, moderates headlines but hires questionable editor.

https://www.floridafamily.org/full_arti ... cle_no=933

BuzzFeed lays off 47 employees including 8 managers at HuffPost to stem $20 million deficit.

https://www.floridafamily.org/full_arti ... cle_no=930

They were responsible for getting Al Jazeera American shut down.

Al Jazeera America is off the air. Florida Family Association's efforts influenced 260 out of 275 (95%) companies to stop advertising.

https://www.floridafamily.org/full_arti ... cle_no=553

Here on the board, Miami JBT goes to speak in Tallahassee on behalf of GOA on gun rights for Floridians.

So the 'fights' are already out there and folks are in the trenches. Time to jump in with both barrels Bob. One voice can become thousands which can become millions. It starts with one voice.

Re: People are waking up and have had enough

Posted: Mon Apr 19, 2021 5:32 pm
by Bob
What if I wanted to watch Al Jazeera Dave?

May I ask who gave you the right to censor my access to information?

Re: People are waking up and have had enough

Posted: Mon Apr 19, 2021 8:58 pm
by David
Bob wrote: Mon Apr 19, 2021 5:32 pm What if I wanted to watch Al Jazeera Dave?
Then you'll have to go online and watch the overseas version. Otherwise you're SOL.
Bob wrote: Mon Apr 19, 2021 5:32 pm May I ask who gave you the right to censor my access to information?
I didn't censor your access to information.

As a consumer I have the right to contact any business that is advertising on a platform that I don't agree with and let them know I have an issue. You have the right to contact them and let them know your fine with the platform. They have the right to determine what their going to do.

However....

The platforms in question have also legitimately been shown to be disseminating false information, lies and propaganda. So your access to information hasn't been denied, your access to propaganda, lies and false information has bee taken away.

Your welcome.

Re: People are waking up and have had enough

Posted: Tue Apr 20, 2021 1:45 pm
by Bob
I'd rather you got people together and contacted CNN and Fox News then....

Seems like if you don't want to watch it, don't watch it. If you don't want to buy those products, don't. I'd think that is how things run in a free country...

If people need to be forced, threatened or coerced. Oh well. Cool. See how that works out for you.

Re: People are waking up and have had enough

Posted: Tue Apr 20, 2021 2:55 pm
by David
Bob wrote: Tue Apr 20, 2021 1:45 pm I'd rather you got people together and contacted CNN and Fox News then....
I would suggest their low ratings indicate that folks aren't watching them much these days.
Bob wrote: Tue Apr 20, 2021 1:45 pm Seems like if you don't want to watch it, don't watch it. If you don't want to buy those products, don't. I'd think that is how things run in a free country...
That is exactly how it works. And it also means that I'm free to voice my concerns to advertisers if I think the platform they're advertising on is harming America in some way. They in turn are free to determine if my concerns are valid and are then free to continue advertising or cease advertising. That is how it works in a free country.
Bob wrote: Tue Apr 20, 2021 1:45 pm If people need to be forced, threatened or coerced. Oh well. Cool.
You are the only one making those claims. My emails (along with tens of thousands of others) don't start out with a threat, they start out stating that I/we are concerned and then explain what those concerns are. So in essence, you're fanning concern over something that is not actually the reality.
Bob wrote: Tue Apr 20, 2021 1:45 pm See how that works out for you.


Seems to be working great. Al Jezzera America went bye-bye. Huffington Post is hemorrhaging money and laying off liberal scabs. That's just a couple of places to use as an example, there are many others. So yeah, working great.

To help you with your fake outrage :lol:

One thousand four hundred forty six (1,446) out of one thousand four hundred eighty one (1,481) companies (98%) stopped advertising on Huffpost.com.

https://floridafamily.org/full_article. ... cle_no=831