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Re: Preparations for October-November
Posted: Fri Aug 28, 2020 7:24 am
by Bmyers
Getting more concerned about the backlash following election. It appears that the Democrats are becoming ever more desperate the closer to election. I either didn't want to believe it or I like living in my little bubble, but watching the response of "protestors" and how they are attacking anyone that they feel doesn't align up with their beliefs and the Democrats are encouraging this, it is going to be nasty the day after the election and the Dems lose the election.
Re: Preparations for October-November
Posted: Fri Aug 28, 2020 9:07 am
by tom mac
Agree, going to be a sh-tshow right after ... and I don't travel in to the city now!
Re: Preparations for October-November
Posted: Sat Aug 29, 2020 10:07 am
by David
The SCOTUS has ruled that American citizens who engage in treason and/or subversion can be held as enemy combatants. This means that they forfeit some/all of their Constitutional rights and can be held at Gitmo and are then subject to military tribunal. They would no longer have the right of due process. This could/will come into play here shortly as Antifa has already been declared a domestic terrorist organization. If Antifa and perhaps even BLM rioters who are engaged in treason or subversion are arrested and then held as enemy combatants you may see the riots come to a quick end when they realize the kid gloves have come off.
Same with the use of deadly force. The definition of reasonable use of deadly force is to prevent death or great bodily harm to yourself or others. The actual language may change from State to State but that is the gist. Can you shot someone shooting at you? Yes. Can you shot someone trying to stab you or run you over in a vehicle? Again, the obvious answer is yes. How about someone about to lob a Molotov cocktail at you or someone? Again, the answer is yes. How about someone trying to blind you with a laser pointer? I would say yes, because it can cause great bodily harm i.e. blind. And it has blinded police officers already. So you may just see deadly force being used on rioters, which I have no issue with, because they have left the blanket of freedom afforded a peaceful protestor. To be clear, I'm not talking about a peaceful protesters, I'm talking about rioters. People that are intentionally trying to injure/kill police and/or private citizens.
It may get very, very ugly but it will be short lived in my opinion based upon the research I'm seeing. But it will be ugly after the election. The Dems have already lost and they know it. You will likely see more active shooters being activated by the left as well. And yes, I think these are paid bad actors on the left that will be activated.
Re: Preparations for October-November
Posted: Sat Aug 29, 2020 4:49 pm
by Bob
Or it is a little dose of End of Rule of Law designed to bring about Excessive Rule of Law...
More food, more modes, stay home, be safe, armed when out, situational awareness.....Always avoid the fight whenever possible
Re: Preparations for October-November
Posted: Sun Aug 30, 2020 8:17 am
by Mac66
9-11 brought us the Patriot Act. What will this insurrection bring us in terms of more gov't control? Not that we shouldn't be using the National Guard to quell these riots but where does it stop?
Re: Preparations for October-November
Posted: Sun Aug 30, 2020 9:00 am
by Bob
Again - the Marxist playbook: Incite class warfare, step aside, let it get bad enough that the people call for help. Then give it to them. Give it to them good and permanent.
Oh - by the way: In all of those situations - Military and Law enforcement completely support the new regime against the people...Right on through to legally sanctioned genocide and murder.
Re: Preparations for October-November
Posted: Sun Aug 30, 2020 9:04 am
by Bob
Mac66 wrote: ↑Sun Aug 30, 2020 8:17 am
9-11 brought us the Patriot Act. What will this insurrection bring us in terms of more gov't control? Not that we shouldn't be using the National Guard to quell these riots but where does it stop?
First of all - let's get clear on the "National Fake Guard"
The ORIGINAL version of the National Gurad was a State Level militia owned and operated and fully under the control of a State (not THE state0
- Point being if you can't figure out the benefit of beignet War with opium religious zealot sheep herders in Afghanistan, FL says "Pass". So the Federal government can't go empire building if members of the Republic don't agree
Now, however - the National Guard is completely Federalized and is the State's (THE state, not a State) go to for international empire building.
So while you are promoting a "should be using the National Guard - remember, they are long past what we think they are. And that only promotes further tyranny.
Re: Preparations for October-November
Posted: Sun Aug 30, 2020 11:56 am
by David
Bob wrote: ↑Sat Aug 29, 2020 4:49 pm
Or it is a little dose of End of Rule of Law designed to bring about Excessive Rule of Law...
How is treating domestic terrorists as enemy combatants a little dose of end of rule of law?
Bob wrote: ↑Sat Aug 29, 2020 4:49 pm
More food, more modes, stay home, be safe, armed when out, situational awareness.....Always avoid the fight whenever possible
Isn't that what the St. Louis couple was doing i.e. sitting down to dinner in their own home, when a mob of hundreds forced their way onto their property and threatened them with great bodily harm and death? I wouldn't put sitting down to dinner in your own home as looking for a fight. I'd say that was pretty much the opposite of looking for a fight. Yet they quickly found themselves in a situation that was not of their own making. They were lucky in their response, but the fact remains that they were forced into that response because all of their non-force options were taken away.
Re: Preparations for October-November
Posted: Sun Aug 30, 2020 12:06 pm
by Mac66
Bob wrote: ↑Sun Aug 30, 2020 9:04 am
Mac66 wrote: ↑Sun Aug 30, 2020 8:17 am
9-11 brought us the Patriot Act. What will this insurrection bring us in terms of more gov't control? Not that we shouldn't be using the National Guard to quell these riots but where does it stop?
First of all - let's get clear on the "National Fake Guard"
The ORIGINAL version of the National Gurad was a State Level militia owned and operated and fully under the control of a State (not THE state0
- Point being if you can't figure out the benefit of beignet War with opium religious zealot sheep herders in Afghanistan, FL says "Pass". So the Federal government can't go empire building if members of the Republic don't agree
Now, however - the National Guard is completely Federalized and is the State's (THE state, not a State) go to for international empire building.
So while you are promoting a "should be using the National Guard - remember, they are long past what we think they are. And that only promotes further tyranny.
Yeah, yeah, blah, blah, blah the "STATE" is evil but the police can't/won't stop the riots. Like it or not that leaves the National Guard. Or perhaps you prefer the cities burn and death and destruction reign, seeing that you are a anarchist?
Re: Preparations for October-November
Posted: Tue Sep 01, 2020 10:17 am
by David
In regards to the OP, the next several months, up to and after the election (up to the inauguration) will be riots and civil unrest. Be prepared for it.