Survival and Emergency Preparedness

Again - you don't have to quarantine or vcxx. You just aren't allowed to be around those who do then. That's cool; Your choice.

Freedom is not without consequences.

Which of course makes no sense. If one person is vaccinated and one isn’t...which one should be at risk? Yet it’s the one that has the vaccinations that is suddenly worried for some reason. If you do the research, and I have, you’ll see a ‘war’ within the medical community and not just alternative medicine circles. Vaccines don’t work, period. They do generate billions of dollars for big pharma. Is it a wonder they push the crap.

And it is a fact that there is hush money set aside to pay off families of a child that is negatively affected.

Vaccines DO work period. Now - I will absolutely agree that there are issues (and $) associated with how they go about doing them. Too many, too soon, negative side effects occur.

But it is a FACT that polio freaking went away. Gotta do the math - risk vs benefit and cost. Vaccinated people who are worried is also irrational. And not all vaccinations are the same. I also believe that there is absolutely an MMR / Autism link.

The point is that if everyone is vaccinated, an unvaccinated person is only a threat to themselves. But is 80% are and 20% are not - then they are a threat to 19%. Nonsensical thought is rampant on both sides. Meanwhile - back to the quarantine letter.

In this case - there is a vaccine. So non-quarantined people, or people that can break quarantine, bring risk of infection to those who have been quarantined.

Bob wrote: ↑Tue Mar 24, 2020 2:55 pm Vaccines DO work period.

Well, you as a layman are welcome to make that statement. You, as a layman, are relying on what you've heard from medical professionals and have no personal experience from actual clinical research. In other words, you are relying on something that you have been told. On the other hand, there ARE medical professionals that have stated vaccines DON'T work based on their clinical research. And of course there are those medical professionals who say they do work (but then I'd have to see their evidence to see if they're just parroting what big pharma has stated). It is a fact that their is a vast amount of contention within the medical community.

The point is that if everyone is vaccinated, an unvaccinated person is only a threat to themselves. But is 80% are and 20% are not - then they are a threat to 19%.

However, they aren't worried about the 19%. They are freaking out about the 80% that are vaccinated. And again, if they're vaccinated there should be no reason to worry.

Nonsensical thought is rampant on both sides.

No, just the one side. Those that aren't vaccinated aren't the ones freaking out because of the misinformation campaign from big pharma. They are the ones however that don't have an immune system that has been compromised by being injected with heavy metals, formaldahyde, mercury and other chemicals that really have no business being in a 'vaccine'.

The plague is a prime example. There is no vaccine against the bubonic plaque yet it left on it's own. Not because a 'cure' was discovered but rather all epidemics follow a bell curve naturally. Although certain essential oils in combination formed a pretty good preventative but 'Thieves' is another story.

Bottom line, if someone wants to inject a compound of unknown chemicals into their blood stream, based on the word of big pharma, they are welcome to do so. But not me, thank you. I've had quite enough forced on my in my life to ever want another.

We can have an entire Vcxx vs No Vcxx thread...based on what you said though, Dave - you have basically decided that you are not partaking in western medicine. What you said applies to every pill ever made.

Anyway - back to lockdowns....

Getting close here. Or at least across the bay. I'm sure we'll follow ion they do...

Vcxx vs No Vcxx - a great potential topic.

The world is not perfect. Despite the advertising slogan, "one size fits all" is rubbish advertising.

In the early 1950s, we were inoculated in public grammar school. The same injection device was used on one kid after another. In between, it was plunged into some kind of black smoke. Today, people would be horrified.

When my wife was dying before he invention of the internet, I had to do my research in the medical library at UCLA. Today, there is the internet. However, most people would rather watch television and let other people do the research.

My sister-in-law went to school with me. She became a high level nurse. She rejected taking shots. She was dealing with patients with impaired immune systems. Finally, Kaiser gave an ultimatum to the nurses, either get the flu shot or wear a mask during working hours. When you do the research, you learn that the annual flu shot has 3-5 strains of bad stuff in it. Most people don't know that. The "effectiveness" of the flu shot is a function of BOTH having the shot and having the potential host population around you inoculated. Is it a guarantee that if you have the shot, you will not get the flu. No. The annual flu shot is only 30-60% effective based upon examining population groups of people given the flu shot and finding out how many did or did not get the flu.

Back to Kaiser. Based upon the facts being broadcast daily, people might, just might an understanding that a mask does not prevent a person from getting the flu. Instead, it reduces the chances that a person with the flu AND who wears a mask will not give it to the next person. Based upon my RESEARCH and not my opinion, I concluded that I would not buy more masks in last January.

So, let's take a situation in which you elect not to take a shot, like for small pox. If the government is not forcing you to have the shot, take the time to research. Be willing to learn. You can find the statistics of what percentage having the shot end up sick. Heck. I wanted to go skydiving. When I looked up the statistics and learned that 1 in 9 were injured in a jump, even minor injury, I decided not to do it. If the research had said 1 in 100, I probably would have jumped.

Of course, if your religion forbids blood transfusions/hospitalizations and physical surgeries, you wasted your time reading the foregoing.

Bob wrote: ↑Wed Mar 25, 2020 1:06 pm We can have an entire Vcxx vs No Vcxx thread...based on what you said though, Dave - you have basically decided that you are not partaking in western medicine. What you said applies to every pill ever made.

Not at all. Western medicine is fantastic and unparalleled in terms of things like cardiac arrest, trauma and other immediate live-saving procedures. Not so much on preventative methodology. Although I believe 'cures' are known and not released (yet) because too much money is in treatment and not cure.

Alternative medicine has a different approach and is just as valid and in terms of preventative methodology is far superior.

Just tossing that out there

David wrote: ↑Thu Mar 26, 2020 11:13 am
Alternative is just as valid and in terms of preventative methodology is far superior.

That's a bold and broad statement there!

Well, it has thousands of years of supporting data. Western medicine only has a few hundred. Remember, I've been to many other countries and they have remedies (successful) that Americans have never heard of because the FDA suppresses the information due to influence from big pharma.