Hammer-fired vs. Striker-fired

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Re: Hammer-fired vs. Striker-fired

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The argument against aftermarket parts in guns is like saying you shouldn't put aftermarket parts in your car. There are hundreds of trusted companies making parts at or above factory quality. I'd gladly trust a Zev trigger in my Glock just like I'd trust Bilstein shocks on my truck.
Just like anything else, you have to do the research to know what parts are worth the effort. Then you make sure they function 100% before carrying for defense or taking a cross-country road trip.
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Many people would never even think of carrying a gun with an aftermarket magazine unless you talk to 1911 guys who will only carry with aftermarket.
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Re: Hammer-fired vs. Striker-fired

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I maintain that if a person can't shoot like a pro with a stock Glock then they need training not aftermarket parts. If it's a range toy then go nuts. Like what Bob did with his G23.

Back on the topic, the more I think about it, the more I prefer hammer-fired pistols with DA/SA. And it presents just the tiniest of conundrum; my P2000 (DAO) feels better in the hand but my USPc (DA/SA) is my preferred trigger. The P2000 is slightly lighter but the USPc is slightly smaller. Nice 'problem' to have.
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Re: Hammer-fired vs. Striker-fired

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I know we all have our 'nits to pick' but I continue to see things that make me shake my head. Over on GT there are users that think a 5.5lbs Glock trigger is too heavy and want to lessen it. Wonder if they should replace the trigger on their brand new/never shot Glock to something 'better'. And one current thread is a gentleman that has Glocks with 5.8lbs trigger pulls and one with an 8lbs trigger pull that, for whatever reason, is bugging him enough to want to change it. Regardless of 2.2lbs of trigger pull equaling almost nothing. Again, their guns and they can do what they want.

But I can't help but think these folks really don't know how to shoot. As an analogy, we started noticing that rookies, despite their academy DT training, had problems going hands on when necessary. They were too reliant on the tools on their 'Batman' belt like the taser, O.C. and baton/ASP. As a result, if they tried to taze a hostile suspect and it didn't work, some of them froze and just didn't know how to go about going hands on. Whereas those of my era who didn't start their careers with all the gadgets were better at both talking as well as going hands on. In other words, the rookies were tool-dependent. Same thing with a LOT of shooters these days. They have only shot a striker-fired pistol and think an 8lbs trigger is 'heavy'. As a result, they have in some ways, cheated themselves of being better shooters.

If someone can shoot a hammer-fired gun well they are very likely to shoot a striker-fired pistol well. The reverse is not something I'd want to bet on. That's why I maintain that if someone can't shoot a striker-fired pistol like a pro needs training and not a different trigger.
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Re: Hammer-fired vs. Striker-fired

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Started with the SW mod 10 to a Sig 226 DAO ( 10+ lb trigger ).... and still shot Master.
and they think 5 and 8 are tough !
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tom mac wrote: Sun Feb 28, 2021 1:02 pm Started with the SW mod 10 to a Sig 226 DAO ( 10+ lb trigger ).... and still shot Master.
and they think 5 and 8 are tough !
And that's what makes me shake my head. I don't want to judge these folks too harshly, but when a 5lb trigger is 'too heavy' I see this as an issue (unless there is a valid reason like a disability which is understandable). And I also want to differentiate between a range toy and a defensive pistol. If it's a range toy then go nuts and have fun.

Right now I basically have three pistols in my EDC rotation. Two are striker-fired and one is hammer-fired. So it's not that I dislike striker-fired and, what I consider, light triggers. But those particular pistols serve specific purposes and if I had a viable hammer-fired alternative I'd strongly think about using it, at least for one of the pistols.

Of the three, my overall favorite is the hammer-fired USPc. It just checks a lot of boxes, overall. It's hammer-fired, DA/SA, de-cocker/safety, multi-caliber and well built.
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