Survival and Emergency Preparedness

Posted: **Sat Jun 27, 2020 11:39 am**

Several factors have gone into the creation of this post.

Seems like for the last several months, gun and ammo sales have set record after record. I was just reading that NICS checks just in Tennessee, just for so far in June have topped 300K. That's just one state for a month that isn't over yet. We've all seen the prices of firearms and ammo. We've all seen how scarce firearms are becoming, in general, in many gun shops. I called one of my local shops a few weeks ago and he said he had a hundred people in the store that day and had sold everything in stock. So citizens are seeing the need to be armed, including new first time buyers.

Why so many guns being sold? Well for starters is Covid. I think the initial thought for many was that police would get sick and there not be enough to patrol and respond. So many folks, including new time buyers figured they'd be on there own.

Protests, riots and looting have occupied the police in many areas of the country. This leaves less police to patrol their zones or respond to calls for service. As I mentioned a couple of weeks ago, we had a riot/looting just 20 minutes from my home. This last weekend, two Tampa PD Officers were ambushed, again, about 20 minutes from my home. 100 Officers responded to that riot from all over Tampa. Which of course left less to respond to normal problems all over the city for the duration of that incident.

In addition to the police, we have issues with other First Responders. Rioters have set fires to buildings and homes and then prevented Fire Rescue from getting to the scene. This would translate over to paramedics and ambulances as well not being able to respond to areas for calls for service.

Due to any and all of the above, medical services and hospitals could be overwhelmed.

How far of a stretch would it be for planned riots to divert the attention of police to an area like downtown (business, city hall, PD headquarters etc) and then have a second part start going into neighborhoods while the police are tied down elsewhere?

All of this puts a tremendous strain on the system. It also can put a greater onus on the individual citizen to provide, at least for a time, for themselves. Not just for personal protection but medical and fire as well.

I thought I'd start a discussion on this topic and ways to avoid, mitigate or deal with various situations should they occur.

Posted: **Sat Jun 27, 2020 11:57 am**

My guess is that in the future - starting in about 2 years police budgets will be cut and experienced officers will leave.

It will be relatively minor offences that will be ignored and increased.

For businesses that means increases in:
Shoplifting
loitering - putting off shoppers

For individuals that means:
aggressive panhandlers
stolen cars
car break ins to steal things
street robberies
home burglaries

You will also see other things like:
Streets not being cleaned
homeless encampments near services
drug use/selling out in the open

Some may think that a rural retreat would be safe. But not so, there is a lot of poverty and drug use in rural areas.

The best would be to band together with like minded people for self reliance. Also, it would be important for the people in the group to be financially independent.

Posted: **Sat Jun 27, 2020 12:46 pm**

I agree with the speculation.
I agree with the suggestions.
Reality is different. I give an example and it is typical. The maid came in a car driven by her husband. The license plate number indicates a new car. He just got a replacement job as a gardener.

People are going back to their old habits despite the many businesses that have closed. They are not financially secure and most never will be.

During the down time, I continued my daily exercises. I also took free classes on line in a number of survival topics like burns/cpr/fixing things. Most people watched reruns of old sports contests on television.

Posted: **Sun Jun 28, 2020 8:03 pm**

I got a scarey eyeful of this working in Disaster Preparedness professionally.

Bottom Line: THERE ARE NOT ENOUGH RESOURCES TO HANDLE MUCH BEYOND DAILY OCCURENCES.

That means that while a large number can be put "on the spot" it leaves other areas without. The cost of the resources is simply too great. You absolutely need to be able to handle your own stuff. And I think any/most first responders will tell you that.

But administration sees your readiness as a threat to their span of control/power/budget.

Posted: **Thu Jul 02, 2020 3:38 pm**

Sheriff vows to deputize gun owners if protests turn violent

https://m.washingtontimes.com/news/2020 ... N3s8I9koq0

Posted: **Sat Jul 04, 2020 11:42 am**

David wrote: ↑Thu Jul 02, 2020 3:38 pm Sheriff vows to deputize gun owners if protests turn violent

https://m.washingtontimes.com/news/2020 ... N3s8I9koq0

Did you read the entire article Dave? another example of more balls than brains.

#1 I'd like to see the legal precedent for this working and an example of a citizen with a gun using deadly force as a "deputy" being acquitted, or even better, not even being charged. Didn't see any of that. You work(ed) for the Sheriff.

#2 I don't believe this is even possible - so I'm NOT gonna be the first case tried for it - and you know you will be

#3 Again, as much as I generally agree with his point of view - "There are things you are allowed to do, and not to do" He immediately went to the big balls statement. Now he's building conflict.

#4 And EVEN if this is all true - look at the guys background. Banging a co-worker in a position of authority. He's a liar period. EVEN if this is correct, and was the right thing to do, is he the guy to bering this issue up? Nope.

So much FAIL. Good job Sheriff......NOT!

Posted: **Sat Jul 04, 2020 12:03 pm**

Bob wrote: ↑Sat Jul 04, 2020 11:42 am #1 I'd like to see the legal precedent for this working...

#2 I don't believe this is even possible...

As the top LEO in a county, a Sheriff has the legal authority to deputize any citizen of the county. Sheriff's Offices are the ONLY Constitutional L.E. agency in the country. They have deputized citizens going all the way back to the old west when they formed possess. A private citizen that is deputized is under the legal authority of the Sheriff.

Bob wrote: ↑Sat Jul 04, 2020 11:42 am #4 And EVEN if this is all true - look at the guys background.

Don't care who he may have been banging while at another agency. He was duly elected, he has the authority.

Posted: **Sat Jul 04, 2020 1:09 pm**

Yup, a Sheriff has the authority to deputize anyone they want, whenever they want. Sounds like a good plan.

And...him banging someone while at another agency doesn't have anything to do with that.

Posted: **Sun Jul 05, 2020 2:23 pm**

You guys keep saying that.

I'm gonna be a realist here and say the first one to do a "Mass deputization" is going to be in deep crap legally for the rest of his life. The difference being he might not be involved in it, but you will for anything you do as a deputy.

We do not live in a land of black/white and laws, or justice. We live in a land of argumentative lawyers, debate, precedent, and politics.

Here is a scenario. His extracurricular issues are determined for him to be guilty, he is found ineligible for the Job, and thus was in violation of the position, which he knew when he took it, thus any of his charges are null and void while there. Including making you all deputies.

What? That could never happen you say! Right....

Posted: **Sun Jul 05, 2020 2:24 pm**

Bob wrote: ↑Sun Jul 05, 2020 2:23 pm You guys keep saying that.

I'm gonna be a realist here and say the first one to do a "Mass deputization" is going to be in deep crap legally for the rest of his life. The difference being he might not be involved in it, but you will for anything you do as a deputy.

We do not live in a land of black/white and laws, or justice. We live in a land of argumentative lawyers, debate, precedent, and politics.

Here is a scenario. His extracurricular issues are determined for him to be guilty, he is found ineligible for the Job, and thus was in violation of the position, which he knew when he took it, thus any of his charges are null and void while there. Including making you all deputies. Oops. And a Lawyer with money and imagination will be able to come up with far better than this.

What? That could never happen you say! Right....

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