Pistol/SBR/Rifle Go-bag

[Bmyers]

Anybody been following the latest ATF ruling considering pistol braces?

[Bob]

Anybody been following the latest ATF ruling considering pistol braces?

Don't know, don't care. I didn't get a "brace"

I have a cheek rest! Go Thorsden!!!!!

[Bob]

I re-read this whole thread.

It really makes me think I need three bags like this!

#1 AR Pistol & Handgun (Glock 19?)

#2 9mm PCC and 9mm Glock
- Compatible mags, 30rds, 15rds, etc

#3 Shockwave in 20g and maybe a .38 2" revolver

I say Glock for no reason. MAybe something sportier with the AR Pistol, like a 1911, or whatever.
Definitely an All Glock compatsible PCC bag though.

And the Shockwave/.38 for the simple folk.

Of course, mags/ammo
But no matter what, Knife, Paracord, basic firetools, and of course 1st aid.

[Bmyers]

I know I like my PCC and pistol bag, based on Glock format. To add to the bag, I tossed in a Glock knife of course.

[Ronin.45]

I think one GO! bag is probably enough.
Having options in an emergency could be a problem.

[Erich]

Anybody been following the latest ATF ruling considering pistol braces?

Yup. And it hasn't happened just yet. But I've already taken off my braces and destroyed them - they don't work for me as braces and they are a poor substitute for a stock (so if I were willing to SBR the thing, I'd do it the right way). The thing is that I don't want to SBR the thing (I take my pistols to other states and don't want to have to wait on "Mother May I?" paperwork), and I've found that - for MY purposes - using a cheek weld á la Demonstrated Concepts' technique is bloody fast and accurate out to 200+ yards. Man, I just love it - I've shot my AR pistols way more since removing the braces than I ever did when I had them.

The beginning of the video is a little silly, but . . . this might be worth a view if you don't know what I'm talking about

[Bob]

and I've found that - for MY purposes - using a cheek weld á la Demonstrated Concepts' technique is bloody fast and accurate out to 200+ yards. Man, I just love it - I've shot my AR pistols way more since removing the braces than I ever did when I had them.

Thorsden....

[Erich]

I like the looks of them but I have been holding off because I wanted to see how I can make it work (pretty well, turns out) with just the tube and a foam pad. And I've just gone and bought a Strike Industries mini pistol buffer for one of the guns, so . . . well, it's a work in progress.

[Ronin.45]

I've noticed a distinct advantage with shoulder contact. I'd like to see anyone who claims otherwise run a carbine stage both ways back to back.

[Erich]

I've noticed a distinct advantage with shoulder contact. I'd like to see anyone who claims otherwise run a carbine stage both ways back to back.

Of course there's an advantage to another point of contact - I don't think anyone would argue seriously that there's not.

But, apples and oranges. Let's talk cost/benefit for what's no more than a 200-yard gun for me (I have rifles for distance, but the AR pistol is for when I'm wandering in the boonies and don't want to schlep a long gun): very fast hits out to 200 with my slung-in, push-me/pull-you technique, no SBR legal BS (so I can take it out of state - which is an issue for me - without getting an AFTFE Mother-May-I permission slip), no significant recoil issues from the 300 BLK/5.56 guns I'm running that require mitigation, resulting in an absolutely tiny gun for keeping in down-low cases in the car . . . this works for me, even if it wouldn't be the best thing in a carbine stage.

I mean, your carbine is going to be at a disadvantage for accuracy compared to an unlimited benchrest railgun - but "That's not the point, my friend," as the man said. For me this is a fast gun with firepower that hits acceptably hard (give me 300 BLK over 5.56 for auto glass any day) for when I'm out in the middle of nowhere with my ass in the wind. For carbine courses and gun gaming, you're certainly better off with the stock. Home defense? I think stock-free works better.

Some examples of where I take it - I assure you I'm at least an hour from the nearest cop