Re: Range report thread
Posted: Thu May 27, 2021 4:05 pm
My son and I had the opportunity to hit the range this afternoon. Took several different pistols to vet.
Taurus TX22
We fired 150 rounds. A total of 10 malfunctions, all with the same brand. Four were completely ammo related as the rounds didn't fire. Not unexpected with rimfire ammunition. This was the Federal 325 round 40 grain lead solid bullet. Which isn't a bad ammo and it was 120 of the 150 rounds we fired during this range trip. Of the other 6 malfunctions, two were stovepipes and four were FTE. There were no FTF malfunctions. The second type of ammo was Remington 22 Golden Bullet high velocity plated round nose. There were no malfunctions with this ammo brand and it is what we finished up with.
Accuracy was excellent. Recoil of course was just above a pellet pistol. There were no malfunctions during rapid fire pulling the trigger as fast as I could.
My son laughed when he picked it up do to how light the pistol feels in the hand. He commented he has Nerf guns that weigh more, lol. We both enjoyed shooting this pistol and it's the kind of pistol you could shoot all day long.
The sights are smallish. Bigger would be better but they are acceptable for a plinking, range pistol. I think this is a pistol my wife will enjoy shooting due to the very low recoil.
Trigger was fine. No, it's not a match grade competition trigger. But it's completely acceptable/serviceable. Very short trigger travel with a crisp break. For a plinker it was actually quite nice.
Overall impression is it's a nice pistol and a fun plinker. I think with the right ammo selection it could be used as a SD pistol by my wife if she chose to use it with the caveat that rimfire isn't always as reliable as center fire ammo. I'd want her to vet it with a couple of hundred rounds of a quality ammo to make sure there are no issues. There are no plans to use this pistol as anything other than a trainer for her, but SD is always an option should it become necessary. I'm happy with the purchase and look forward to shooting it more.
Sig P265XL w/Romeo Zero
I'll break this review down into two parts; the pistol and the red dot optic.
This is the second XL that I have, this one I purchased for my wife. She likes the feel and how easy it is to rack the slide. She plans to use this as night stand pistol.
At the range it fired flawlessly and was accurate (in terms of groups on target). As with the XL I carry, I like the flat trigger and it's just easy to shoot this pistol well. Short trigger travel and very crisp 90 degree break. I don't find the recoil to be excessive and quite pleasant to shoot. As expected there were zero malfunctions. I quite like this pistol. My son liked the pistol but prefers his P365 over the XL as he is more use to that pistol.
As far as the optic...didn't care for it at all. I had to drift it a bit to get it centered but no matter what I did I was still shooting high. Good groups but the rounds were hitting several inches higher than where I was putting the dot. I'm not a stranger to red dots in that we use to use red dots on our shotguns at work. However they were taken out of service over 25 years ago. I found that I was taking time trying to get the red dot on target which slowed me down as opposed to simply getting the front sight on target and getting rounds off (within 25 yards I normally point shoot as I was trained decades ago and it works quite well for me to get off fast, accurate shots). So I would not use an optic on my pistol personally. I simply prefer iron sights on a pistol and with iron sights I'm very accurate with my XL. So I don't place the blame for shooting high on the pistol but rather my lack of ability with the red dot. I'm going to keep the red dot on the XL, for now, and see how well my wife does with it. It may simply work better for her so I don't want to put my experience onto her without her trying it for herself. If it works for her then great, if not it can be removed and the rear sight put back on. I can always get a mounted laser for her it she likes.
Overall impression is that I'm glad I picked this second XL up for her and I think regardless of iron or optic she'll quite enjoy it. And she will have a quality pistol with very good capacity as a night stand/HD pistol.
Sig P226
What can I say but....WOW! This police trade-in was made in 2004. The G10 grip was pure joy to shoot with. Filled the hand and gave a sure purchase on the pistol even with the heavier recoil of the 40S&W and 357sig. The heavier DA first trigger pull was beautifully smooth. Estimate perhaps 10lbs give-or-take perhaps a bit less. The SA was REALLY smooth and short and felt like it broke at 4lbs or less. Getting use to it the SA shot actually surprised me a couple of times.
Accuracy was impressive. Head shots at 12-15 yards was nothing. Recoil with both 40S&W and 357sig was stout. Definitely more felt recoil than with either my HK USPc or P2000. But for me it was completely fine (I grew up on full house 357 magnum revolvers so recoil just isn't that big of a deal to me with the exception of an LCP). My son felt the recoil a lot more but he doesn't have the same experience I have with heavier recoiling rounds. But he did very much enjoy this pistol, particularly the SA trigger.
As expected, no malfunctions with either barrel. Felt and shot like a quality pistol.
Overall impression is that I'm glad I picked this pistol up at an excellent price. Very happy with the G10 grip. I'd carry this pistol for SD in a heart beat.
Sig P250
I wanted to put a few more rounds through this one while we were at the range. Again, very satisfied with the accuracy. As above, my experience started with DA revolvers, DAO and DA/SA pistols. So to me the trigger is long but very smooth. Probably 6-8lbs tops. As before, more felt recoil in 40S&W than with either HK but nothing that concerns me in any way. My son had a different impression, lol. He's not use to a DAO trigger. He was 'generally' accurate with it such that in a SD situation he's easily be on target but he's not at the level he'd put on ragged hole in the target with the DAO trigger. He's use to his G19.5FS and Sig P365 which is fine. But he was close enough that he could shoot this if needed.
Very much like the X-Carry grip module. It's comfortable to me, even with heavier recoiling ammunition. I feel like I can really get a solid purchase on the grip.
Overall impression is this is my 12+1 shot revolver for woods carry. Glad I purchased this one with all the mags at a great price. Only downside is night sights (particularly the rear) since it was discontinued in 2017.
LCP II
Just put a couple of mags through this to end the range trip. As before, zero malfunctions. Heavy recoil since it's such a light pistol. I'd rather shoot 40S&W or 357sig all day out of my P226 or P250 rather than 380 out of this pistol. But it serves a purpose and I like to stay proficient with it. And it's perfectly fine out to 15 yards.
Overall impression is that it's fine for it's intended purpose.
Taurus TX22
We fired 150 rounds. A total of 10 malfunctions, all with the same brand. Four were completely ammo related as the rounds didn't fire. Not unexpected with rimfire ammunition. This was the Federal 325 round 40 grain lead solid bullet. Which isn't a bad ammo and it was 120 of the 150 rounds we fired during this range trip. Of the other 6 malfunctions, two were stovepipes and four were FTE. There were no FTF malfunctions. The second type of ammo was Remington 22 Golden Bullet high velocity plated round nose. There were no malfunctions with this ammo brand and it is what we finished up with.
Accuracy was excellent. Recoil of course was just above a pellet pistol. There were no malfunctions during rapid fire pulling the trigger as fast as I could.
My son laughed when he picked it up do to how light the pistol feels in the hand. He commented he has Nerf guns that weigh more, lol. We both enjoyed shooting this pistol and it's the kind of pistol you could shoot all day long.
The sights are smallish. Bigger would be better but they are acceptable for a plinking, range pistol. I think this is a pistol my wife will enjoy shooting due to the very low recoil.
Trigger was fine. No, it's not a match grade competition trigger. But it's completely acceptable/serviceable. Very short trigger travel with a crisp break. For a plinker it was actually quite nice.
Overall impression is it's a nice pistol and a fun plinker. I think with the right ammo selection it could be used as a SD pistol by my wife if she chose to use it with the caveat that rimfire isn't always as reliable as center fire ammo. I'd want her to vet it with a couple of hundred rounds of a quality ammo to make sure there are no issues. There are no plans to use this pistol as anything other than a trainer for her, but SD is always an option should it become necessary. I'm happy with the purchase and look forward to shooting it more.
Sig P265XL w/Romeo Zero
I'll break this review down into two parts; the pistol and the red dot optic.
This is the second XL that I have, this one I purchased for my wife. She likes the feel and how easy it is to rack the slide. She plans to use this as night stand pistol.
At the range it fired flawlessly and was accurate (in terms of groups on target). As with the XL I carry, I like the flat trigger and it's just easy to shoot this pistol well. Short trigger travel and very crisp 90 degree break. I don't find the recoil to be excessive and quite pleasant to shoot. As expected there were zero malfunctions. I quite like this pistol. My son liked the pistol but prefers his P365 over the XL as he is more use to that pistol.
As far as the optic...didn't care for it at all. I had to drift it a bit to get it centered but no matter what I did I was still shooting high. Good groups but the rounds were hitting several inches higher than where I was putting the dot. I'm not a stranger to red dots in that we use to use red dots on our shotguns at work. However they were taken out of service over 25 years ago. I found that I was taking time trying to get the red dot on target which slowed me down as opposed to simply getting the front sight on target and getting rounds off (within 25 yards I normally point shoot as I was trained decades ago and it works quite well for me to get off fast, accurate shots). So I would not use an optic on my pistol personally. I simply prefer iron sights on a pistol and with iron sights I'm very accurate with my XL. So I don't place the blame for shooting high on the pistol but rather my lack of ability with the red dot. I'm going to keep the red dot on the XL, for now, and see how well my wife does with it. It may simply work better for her so I don't want to put my experience onto her without her trying it for herself. If it works for her then great, if not it can be removed and the rear sight put back on. I can always get a mounted laser for her it she likes.
Overall impression is that I'm glad I picked this second XL up for her and I think regardless of iron or optic she'll quite enjoy it. And she will have a quality pistol with very good capacity as a night stand/HD pistol.
Sig P226
What can I say but....WOW! This police trade-in was made in 2004. The G10 grip was pure joy to shoot with. Filled the hand and gave a sure purchase on the pistol even with the heavier recoil of the 40S&W and 357sig. The heavier DA first trigger pull was beautifully smooth. Estimate perhaps 10lbs give-or-take perhaps a bit less. The SA was REALLY smooth and short and felt like it broke at 4lbs or less. Getting use to it the SA shot actually surprised me a couple of times.
Accuracy was impressive. Head shots at 12-15 yards was nothing. Recoil with both 40S&W and 357sig was stout. Definitely more felt recoil than with either my HK USPc or P2000. But for me it was completely fine (I grew up on full house 357 magnum revolvers so recoil just isn't that big of a deal to me with the exception of an LCP). My son felt the recoil a lot more but he doesn't have the same experience I have with heavier recoiling rounds. But he did very much enjoy this pistol, particularly the SA trigger.
As expected, no malfunctions with either barrel. Felt and shot like a quality pistol.
Overall impression is that I'm glad I picked this pistol up at an excellent price. Very happy with the G10 grip. I'd carry this pistol for SD in a heart beat.
Sig P250
I wanted to put a few more rounds through this one while we were at the range. Again, very satisfied with the accuracy. As above, my experience started with DA revolvers, DAO and DA/SA pistols. So to me the trigger is long but very smooth. Probably 6-8lbs tops. As before, more felt recoil in 40S&W than with either HK but nothing that concerns me in any way. My son had a different impression, lol. He's not use to a DAO trigger. He was 'generally' accurate with it such that in a SD situation he's easily be on target but he's not at the level he'd put on ragged hole in the target with the DAO trigger. He's use to his G19.5FS and Sig P365 which is fine. But he was close enough that he could shoot this if needed.
Very much like the X-Carry grip module. It's comfortable to me, even with heavier recoiling ammunition. I feel like I can really get a solid purchase on the grip.
Overall impression is this is my 12+1 shot revolver for woods carry. Glad I purchased this one with all the mags at a great price. Only downside is night sights (particularly the rear) since it was discontinued in 2017.
LCP II
Just put a couple of mags through this to end the range trip. As before, zero malfunctions. Heavy recoil since it's such a light pistol. I'd rather shoot 40S&W or 357sig all day out of my P226 or P250 rather than 380 out of this pistol. But it serves a purpose and I like to stay proficient with it. And it's perfectly fine out to 15 yards.
Overall impression is that it's fine for it's intended purpose.