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Re: Being your own First Responder

Posted: Sun Jul 05, 2020 4:48 pm
by David
Bob wrote: Sun Jul 05, 2020 2:23 pm Here is a scenario. His extracurricular issues are determined for him to be guilty, he is found ineligible for the Job, and thus was in violation of the position, which he knew when he took it, thus any of his charges are null and void while there. Including making you all deputies.
Yeah, here’s the thing about that...

His alleged affair was when he worked FOR a different agency. It may have violated that agencies policies, but he’s not longer there so it’s moot. On the other hand, he’s now a duly elected official i.e. a Sheriff in a completely different county. An alleged affair that happened at another time in another place apparently didn’t prevent him from becoming a duly elected official. So he isn’t going to lose his job because the only way to remove him is to lose his next election or be removed by the Governor for something a lot more serious than an alleged affair.
Bob wrote: Sun Jul 05, 2020 2:23 pm I'm gonna be a realist here and say the first one to do a "Mass deputization" is going to be in deep crap legally for the rest of his life. The difference being he might not be involved in it, but you will for anything you do as a deputy.

We do not live in a land of black/white and laws, or justice. We live in a land of argumentative lawyers, debate, precedent, and politics.
Yeah, here’s the thing about that...

It’s been done, all over the country at different times in our history. Even into recent times.

https://stories.avvo.com/nakedlaw/bizar ... posse.html

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Posse_comitatus

See Florida State Statute 30.071 (1) (d).

It is the same authority that the POTUS can institute to enable the NG and/or regular military to execute law enforcement;

https://fas.org/sgp/crs/natsec/R42659.pdf

So there ya go. It has been done many, many times and can still be done and is done when it’s felt necessary and appropriate to the situation.

Re: Being your own First Responder

Posted: Tue Jul 07, 2020 9:53 pm
by Bob
Dave - did you read all of that? Based on the Florida Statute, it isn't that easy.
Based on the article - I repeat; You could easily end up in jail on trial for your actions - especially based on the Florida Statute.

Now - the Federal article? OMG; Been taxing to run amok since early 1800's....That was a VERY interesting read. As always - once a Government acquires a power, it NEVER gives it up.

Re: Being your own First Responder

Posted: Tue Jul 07, 2020 10:17 pm
by David
The point again is that it is legal, a Sheriff has and always has had that authority and it has been used all the way up to now. That’s the facts.

Re: Being your own First Responder

Posted: Fri Jul 10, 2020 2:38 pm
by Bob
I agree - not impossible. But like I said - I'm not gonna be the test case!

Re: Being your own First Responder

Posted: Wed Jul 15, 2020 11:01 am
by David
Bob wrote: Fri Jul 10, 2020 2:38 pm I agree - not impossible. But like I said - I'm not gonna be the test case!
You wouldn't be. It's been done for hundreds of years already.

Re: Being your own First Responder

Posted: Mon Jul 27, 2020 10:58 am
by David
Armed Black Lives Matter protestor in Austin killed in shootout

https://thepostmillennial.com/black-liv ... river-kill

Re: Being your own First Responder

Posted: Mon Jul 27, 2020 12:34 pm
by David
Seattle Police Chief Sends Letters To Residents: We Cannot Enforce The Law, You Are On Your Own

https://newspunch.com/seattle-police-ch ... adBdTl899M

Re: Being your own First Responder

Posted: Sat Aug 08, 2020 9:44 am
by David
Saw a thing yesterday were Antifa is going into some residential areas of Portland now. Mostly preying on the elderly.

Re: Being your own First Responder

Posted: Sun Aug 09, 2020 8:14 am
by Bmyers
When will the people in Portland have enough?

Re: Being your own First Responder

Posted: Sun Aug 09, 2020 9:15 am
by tom mac
when the dems allow the cops to actually use real force AND then the judges actually charge the people a healthy penalty