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Re: Taurus, Ruger, Smith, or what?
Posted: Mon Mar 30, 2020 9:50 pm
by fishingjeff
Hey Bob, hold to that theory so I can find a short barrel GP-100 before you do. Might even get a Governor or the Taurus version. Still looking for a Ruger Blackhawk Convertible-9mm/357 in 4-6" barrel.
Re: Taurus, Ruger, Smith, or what?
Posted: Mon Mar 30, 2020 10:08 pm
by David
fishingjeff wrote: ↑Mon Mar 30, 2020 9:50 pm
Hey Bob, hold to that theory so I can find a short barrel GP-100 before you do. Might even get a Governor or the Taurus version. Still looking for a Ruger Blackhawk Convertible-9mm/357 in 4-6" barrel.
Not to drift the thread too much, but my brother has a Taurus Public Defender .410/45LC revolver and loves it. He's dispatched a bunch of different critters over the last several years with it. I've always thought it would make the ultimate snake revolver. And of course you can load it with pretty impressive defensive loadings. Maybe not that effective across the parking lot, but for shorter ranges or HD it looks really good.
Re: Taurus, Ruger, Smith, or what?
Posted: Wed Apr 01, 2020 12:31 pm
by Bob
Bringing up The Judge is not a drift Dave - it is squatting right over all that is good about firearms and dropping a big steamer right on it.
I'm not saying there isn't a use for the judge. I'm just saying I don't care what it is!
Re: Taurus, Ruger, Smith, or what?
Posted: Wed Apr 01, 2020 3:15 pm
by Ronin.45
I'm with Bob
Re: Taurus, Ruger, Smith, or what?
Posted: Wed Apr 01, 2020 8:57 pm
by David
Neither of you are judging the cool factor of the possibility of 'Judging' a bad guy. Or the cool part of telling the bad guy afterwards, 'you've been judged'. Just saying.
Re: Taurus, Ruger, Smith, or what?
Posted: Thu Apr 02, 2020 2:19 pm
by fishingjeff
I would prefer to "Govern" a bad situation, rather than to "Judge" it. However either is good, if the price is right.
Re: Taurus, Ruger, Smith, or what?
Posted: Thu Apr 02, 2020 3:32 pm
by David
Ronin.45 wrote: ↑Wed Apr 01, 2020 3:15 pmI'm with Bob
Bob wrote: ↑Wed Apr 01, 2020 12:31 pm
Bringing up The Judge is not a drift Dave - it is squatting right over all that is good about firearms and dropping a big steamer right on it.
I'm not saying there isn't a use for the judge. I'm just saying I don't care what it is!
Well, I think a Judge/Governor is fine for many of the intended uses it could fulfill. Again, using my brother as an example, when he first got it he lived out in the boonies on 26 acres. He used it to dispatch numerous pest critters. So that is a practical example of real world use. There are also several loads useful in close range SD. Certainly not that effective across the parking lot, but across the room (typical SD shooting distance) it is pretty decent and can make several holes.
Re: Taurus, Ruger, Smith, or what?
Posted: Thu Apr 02, 2020 6:49 pm
by Ronin.45
David wrote: ↑Thu Apr 02, 2020 3:32 pm
Ronin.45 wrote: ↑Wed Apr 01, 2020 3:15 pmI'm with Bob
Bob wrote: ↑Wed Apr 01, 2020 12:31 pm
Bringing up The Judge is not a drift Dave - it is squatting right over all that is good about firearms and dropping a big steamer right on it.
I'm not saying there isn't a use for the judge. I'm just saying I don't care what it is!
Well, I think a Judge/Governor is fine for many of the intended uses it could fulfill. Again, using my brother as an example, when he first got it he lived out in the boonies on 26 acres. He used it to dispatch numerous pest critters. So that is a practical example of real world use. There are also several loads useful in close range SD. Certainly not that effective across the parking lot, but across the room (typical SD shooting distance) it is pretty decent and can make several holes.
The only thing it's good at is close pest control. Sadly, that's not what it was marketed or sold for. The argument that it is "pretty decent" for SD with the right loads is ignoring the fact most other guns are better for that role. Even if you just compare it to other revolvers, it's a huge framed gun with low capacity and questionable quality. The Governor at least gives you an extra round and better quality, but now you're at a much higher price point. Of course, you can load them with standard 45Colt rounds(or ACP in the Governor) to increase performance, but then you would be better off with a standard gun. Most people would be much better served by a 357 in 3-4". You'd have a handier gun in a potent caliber that holds 6-8rds and a wide assortment of ammo as well. A box of CCI rat shot would be perfect snake medicine too.
Re: Taurus, Ruger, Smith, or what?
Posted: Fri Apr 03, 2020 8:39 am
by Mac66
Back on topic....I've been loading up 357 mag loads for use in my Dan Wesson. So far they've been pretty stiff loads more suitable for a rifle as they tend to lock up my revolver. Perhaps my powder scale is out of whack as I am following the reloading manual. Oh well, back to the drawing board.
Re: Taurus, Ruger, Smith, or what?
Posted: Sun Apr 05, 2020 11:04 am
by Bob
So I am pretty set on the Blackhawk.
Dave - keep me posted on good deals if you see one.
What do you guys think about the 9mm conversion cylinder?