Can't put myself in their shoes... but thinking if that was me in Atlanta with all going on, I'd let him run.
They had the car so could id him.
Also, Was hearing that the cops are putting in for early retirement... not surprising when there is no support.
Looks like areas are getting hit hard
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You can't fix stupid !
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Read that the major cities are seeing a mass exodus of law enforcement.
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Oh yeah - system totally jacked up. Watching the media circus on this...I hope the Chief just said "I'm not dealing with this. I'm out. Not my problem anymore..."
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My podcast guy gave a great show on "the death of the city" As with all things - we went to an extreme, and then when stress hit, it falls apart. 8000 people per square mile: Too much stress, too close, too little resource, too much need for order. 8 per square mile = infinite sustain.
And when 1/2 the population lives in cities, naturally they have to control the resources. Monsanto will continue to ship food, as will Haliburton.
Independent farmers could destroy a city in a week just by halting delivery with nearly no consequence.
And when 1/2 the population lives in cities, naturally they have to control the resources. Monsanto will continue to ship food, as will Haliburton.
Independent farmers could destroy a city in a week just by halting delivery with nearly no consequence.
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Been reading a little on the two Atlanta cases.
Atlanta has been a hotspot for police issues lately.
If you remember, 5 officers were fired and at least two of them charged with aggravated assault charges because they tazed two black people in a vehicle. The officers were also charged with battery.
The next incident involved two officers at Wendy's trying to take a black man into custody and shot and killed him. The mayor wants both officers fired and removed along with murder charges.
What I find interesting is there are several things in common:
Both involve Atlanta PD
Both involve a tazer
Why is it when the officers used the tazer on the black people to take them into custody they were charged with aggravated assault?
Georgia law: A person commits the offense of aggravated assault when he or she assaults:(
1) With intent to murder, to rape, or to rob;
(2) With a deadly weapon or with any object, device, or instrument which, when used offensively against a person, is likely to or actually does result in serious bodily injury;
(3) With any object, device, or instrument which, when used offensively against a person, is likely to or actually does result in strangulation; or
(4) A person or persons without legal justification by discharging a firearm from within a motor vehicle toward a person or persons.
Yet, when the officers at Wendys responds with deadly force to a tazer, that the DA had just previously stated was deadly force and charged the other officers with a crime for using it, it is now illegal for the officers to use deadly force to defend themselves from a deadly weapon?
So which is it Mr DA? Is the tazer deadly force or is it not? If you are charging the first set of officers with using a deadly weapon, then the officers at Wendys responded correctly. If you drop the aggravated assault charges against the first set officers and state that the tazer is not deadly force, then the officers at Wendys would be in question for the force used.
Atlanta has been a hotspot for police issues lately.
If you remember, 5 officers were fired and at least two of them charged with aggravated assault charges because they tazed two black people in a vehicle. The officers were also charged with battery.
The next incident involved two officers at Wendy's trying to take a black man into custody and shot and killed him. The mayor wants both officers fired and removed along with murder charges.
What I find interesting is there are several things in common:
Both involve Atlanta PD
Both involve a tazer
Why is it when the officers used the tazer on the black people to take them into custody they were charged with aggravated assault?
Georgia law: A person commits the offense of aggravated assault when he or she assaults:(
1) With intent to murder, to rape, or to rob;
(2) With a deadly weapon or with any object, device, or instrument which, when used offensively against a person, is likely to or actually does result in serious bodily injury;
(3) With any object, device, or instrument which, when used offensively against a person, is likely to or actually does result in strangulation; or
(4) A person or persons without legal justification by discharging a firearm from within a motor vehicle toward a person or persons.
Yet, when the officers at Wendys responds with deadly force to a tazer, that the DA had just previously stated was deadly force and charged the other officers with a crime for using it, it is now illegal for the officers to use deadly force to defend themselves from a deadly weapon?
So which is it Mr DA? Is the tazer deadly force or is it not? If you are charging the first set of officers with using a deadly weapon, then the officers at Wendys responded correctly. If you drop the aggravated assault charges against the first set officers and state that the tazer is not deadly force, then the officers at Wendys would be in question for the force used.
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A man cannot call himself peaceful if he is not capable of violence. If he's not capable of violence he isn't peaceful, he is harmless. There is a distinct difference.
Fate whispers to the warrior "You cannot weather this storm". The warrior replies, "I am the storm".
Fate whispers to the warrior "You cannot weather this storm". The warrior replies, "I am the storm".
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Saw the above vid....
Shooter at a protest re statue ?... it was claimed he sprayed others with pepper spray and knocked down woman protestor..was leaving scene followed by protestors and they attacked him... subject with skateboard that struck him also had a knife so shooting charge were dropped after.
But still being charge with other crimes.
Shooter at a protest re statue ?... it was claimed he sprayed others with pepper spray and knocked down woman protestor..was leaving scene followed by protestors and they attacked him... subject with skateboard that struck him also had a knife so shooting charge were dropped after.
But still being charge with other crimes.
You can't fix stupid !
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The head of Atlanta's police union confirmed Wednesday that officers from the Atlanta Police Department in Zones 3 and 6 walked off the job Wednesday afternoon.
Vince Champion, southeast regional director of the International Brotherhood of Police officers, said that police officers had stopped answering calls midshift, in response to charges against Officer Garrett Rolfe who is accused of murdering Rayshard Brooks in Atlanta.
"The union, we would never advocate this. We wouldn't advocate a blue flu," Champion said. "We don't know the numbers. Apparently we're learning that command staff are asking outlying counties for support and aren't getting it."
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Zones 3 and 6 cover south Atlanta, where Rolfe killed Rayshard Brooks after a June 12 DUI arrest turned into an altercation. Rolfe fired three bullets at Brooks as he fled with a taser in hand. Video of the shooting suggests Brooks pointed the taser at officers as he fled.
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Atlanta INtown reports, "A drive around Zone 6 indicated there was not the usual APD presence. A Georgia State Patrol unit was handling a two-car accident at Boulevard and Edgewood Avenue around 9 p.m. The APD's precinct at Wellstar Atlanta Medical Center appeared empty. Down in Grant Park, the Zone 3 precinct was populated by Fulton County Sheriff units."
Vince Champion, southeast regional director of the International Brotherhood of Police officers, said that police officers had stopped answering calls midshift, in response to charges against Officer Garrett Rolfe who is accused of murdering Rayshard Brooks in Atlanta.
"The union, we would never advocate this. We wouldn't advocate a blue flu," Champion said. "We don't know the numbers. Apparently we're learning that command staff are asking outlying counties for support and aren't getting it."
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Zones 3 and 6 cover south Atlanta, where Rolfe killed Rayshard Brooks after a June 12 DUI arrest turned into an altercation. Rolfe fired three bullets at Brooks as he fled with a taser in hand. Video of the shooting suggests Brooks pointed the taser at officers as he fled.
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Atlanta INtown reports, "A drive around Zone 6 indicated there was not the usual APD presence. A Georgia State Patrol unit was handling a two-car accident at Boulevard and Edgewood Avenue around 9 p.m. The APD's precinct at Wellstar Atlanta Medical Center appeared empty. Down in Grant Park, the Zone 3 precinct was populated by Fulton County Sheriff units."
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https://bluelivesmatter.blue/cop-charge ... rd-brooks/
Despite the fact that the bodycam video clearly showed Brooks firing the Taser at officers before he was shot, the Fulton County DA opined on Sunday that the drunk driver was no threat to police.
“(Brooks) did not seem to present any kind of threat to anyone, and so the fact that it would escalate to his death just seems unreasonable,” DA Paul Howard told CNN. “It just seems like this is not the kind of conversation and incident that should have led to someone’s death.”
Despite the fact that the bodycam video clearly showed Brooks firing the Taser at officers before he was shot, the Fulton County DA opined on Sunday that the drunk driver was no threat to police.
“(Brooks) did not seem to present any kind of threat to anyone, and so the fact that it would escalate to his death just seems unreasonable,” DA Paul Howard told CNN. “It just seems like this is not the kind of conversation and incident that should have led to someone’s death.”
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I have not watched any video and have no opinion on any charges. What is notable to me only is that there was a procedure of having a different police agency review similar situations and make recommendations to a local DA and the local DA bypassed that procedure. The local D.A. also bypassed the available option of presenting his information to a Grand Jury and rejected that option.
Now the games begin.
Years ago, there was a local murder trial. My late wife knew attorneys for the prosecution and the defense so I had an opportunity to speak with both sides years after the trial. One of the prosecutors who is now a retired judge told me that if the defense had not delayed the trial, he would have lost. The prosecution just didn't have the case together when it was filed. If what Bmyers relates is accurate and there is other evidence that the defense can bring to bear, then maybe the defense (hired by the police union) will NOT do the usual waiver of time. Then the D.A. will have a real problem. The defense may also have the option of a jury or bench trial that it can exercise.
Now the games begin.
Years ago, there was a local murder trial. My late wife knew attorneys for the prosecution and the defense so I had an opportunity to speak with both sides years after the trial. One of the prosecutors who is now a retired judge told me that if the defense had not delayed the trial, he would have lost. The prosecution just didn't have the case together when it was filed. If what Bmyers relates is accurate and there is other evidence that the defense can bring to bear, then maybe the defense (hired by the police union) will NOT do the usual waiver of time. Then the D.A. will have a real problem. The defense may also have the option of a jury or bench trial that it can exercise.