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Millennials lack basic survival skills
#11
I do nothing close to what my parents/Grandparents do.

.Gov and .Com like you dependent, vs independent.

And while I believe Nathan/Erica were probably millennials, I also believe they could have got by just fine without the French Press. ; )
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(01-29-2017, 04:40 PM)Bob Wrote: I do nothing close to what my parents/Grandparents do.  

.Gov and .Com like you dependent, vs independent.

And while I believe Nathan/Erica were probably millennials, I also believe they could have got by just fine without the French Press.  ; )


I give quite a bit of credit to both Nathan and Erica.  They aren't your normal millennial. Both have been to several foreign countries (IIRC Africa and New Zealand immediately come to mind) and they weren't staying in hotels but actually living like the locals.  Lots of respect there for the courage and experience(s).  

I try to instill that in my son as well and give him the opportunity to have varied experinece(s) in multiple areas.
Governmental dependance makes for poor self reliance.

"What could possibly go wrong with a duct tape boat?"  Cody Lundin

The best defense against evil men are good men with violent skill sets.
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#13
I like a good challenge. So I will respond to a poll taken by the London Boat Show.

Swim in open water skill. A great skill. However, it takes experience in observation and a great amount of time to learn. Ate age 6, I went every Sat morning by bus to a pool to learn how to swim. It took a number of years to master different strokes. Of course I have swum in the Russian River, the Kern River, the Atlantic and Pacific Oceans. However, now assume that your parents didn't have the money for lessons or ever take you to open water to swim. So a kid doesn't know how to swim today because his parents can't afford to pay $10 for parking at Santa Monica Beach. Not the kid's fault.

Start a fire. I grew up with floor gas heaters, gas (non electronic start - and still have). The skill was learning how to deal with them and steam heating without killing yourself. I didn't have to start a fire outside (although I could) and I would say that the current age group of 60 -75 years old can't start a fire. If you have electronic ignition in the stove and in the oven, I doubt that a person even has a set of strike-anywhere matches (and, by the way, if any one in the forum knows where I can get genuine strike anywhere matches today, let me know. What supposedly passes as strike anywhere matches or lifeboat or survival matches are not true strike anywhere matches that existed 50 years ago.) I have multiple devices at home and in the car to start a fire. I don't think that sitting with a stick, stone and string cuts it. Even the American Indians knew to keep a fire burning and carry a small protected fire with them.

Tie a survival knot. Ok. I was an Eagle Scout. If I had the time today, there are multiple ways to learn how to tie a knot through the internet. I would love to him the time to review. However . . . drum roll please. I came home at 5:30 p.m. last night, March 8, 2018. I was happy because next Tuesday is a school holiday, no classes. Lots of time to catch up on the homework review. Part of the ceiling in the den had collapsed. $1000 deductible if covered by insurance. Probably a pipe that is going to be very difficult to repair and require taking off part of the roof.

Every kid in school has a challenge of learning new skills and passing classes. They aren't lazy. I have an all in one Bother printer. Problem with it that could not be cured with Brother technical support twice on the phone. Ok. I bought a new, second Brother printer on March 7, 2018. Had researched on line for an hour or more. Went to Best Buy. No staff working the computer area. Helped myself to a printer from the shelf. Two people, having the crummy installation instructions, the crummy manual, a youtube video not done by Brother, and calling Spectrum, took only an hour to install the printer. Required the girlfriend to work with her cell phone and her Apple computer to be able to connect. Every kid has the same problem of time. I have a cell phone and no service. Why? Because the cell phone has a 134 page, on line manual.

I was at UCLA Dental School on Wednesday. I get out at 10 am. There is a coed going to yoga class with a yoga mat from sorority row. In the last few months, rental scooters have shown up all over Santa Monica and West Los Angles. Parked everywhere. Requires a credit card and an understanding of operation. No helmets provided. I have no idea of the rules. I have no idea if you are supposed to drive them on the sidewalk or the street with the cars. At the local JC, many people are riding. Wow! Great high tech. Cool! Just like the cell phones and people walking around and driving. Yep. There are going to be a lot of fatties. When your life style of cool means you RIDE to yoga class, you aren't exercising.

Things change. My mother didn't have her own car until she was 38 years old. At age 6, I walked 3 miles each day, each way to the closest elementary school on the railroad tracks (forbidden) even when there were feet of snow on the ground. Today, in Southern California, the mothers sit in suvs in line outside the local elementary school that their kids should be walking to. Tell a kid - your choice or walk to school and which will be chosen? I even had to walk to high school in Los Angeles. Today, there is student parking!
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(01-18-2017, 02:07 PM)David Wrote: The problem with prepping shows is the same thing that is wrong with some survival shows;  they sacrifice the non-sexy common sense stuff for the sensational.  For example, most of us would be content with a prepping show that had a whole episode on canning or trapping or solar power or flash lights or water disinfection or making long term buckets etc.  But that is 99% of prepping i.e. the non-flashy/non-sexy boring stuff that actually saves your life.  The media would rather focus on the 1% and then find folks that take it to the extreme.

I watched one show where they showed a woman who was concerned about the H1N1 flu (or whatever it was at the time).  She was stockpiling food and medical supplies, huge stockpile of medical supplies. They also showed her obsessively cleaning and cleaning and cleaning. Obviously OCD.  The more I watched however the more I realized that what I was seeing wasn't exactly what was going on. They used the same clip of her cleaning compulsively 12 times during the 45 minutes of actual show (commercial being the other 15 minutes). Just before and after every commercial they showed the ciip of her cleaning.   Obviously it was done to make her look compulsive but she wasn't really. That huge store of medical supplies (I googled her and the show) was actually part of her internet business. They didn't mention that she was a nurse and had a medical supply business.

My point is that even if the people they show on those survival/prepping shows aren't nuts, they are portrayed as such to make it more dramatic.   In all fairness however, ratings mean money so if was you, would you let them stretch the truth for a bigger piece of the pie?
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#15
Mac66 gets a thumbs up. This is exactly why I do not and have never watched a survival program on television. Most of my television watching is limited to French channel 5 in French. News, movies, documentaries. No MSNBC, no inane car chases, no Stormwatch 2018, no CNN, no NFL. And . . . . no commercials.
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(03-09-2018, 03:42 PM)mac66 Wrote:
(01-18-2017, 02:07 PM)David Wrote: The problem with prepping shows is the same thing that is wrong with some survival shows;  they sacrifice the non-sexy common sense stuff for the sensational.  For example, most of us would be content with a prepping show that had a whole episode on canning or trapping or solar power or flash lights or water disinfection or making long term buckets etc.  But that is 99% of prepping i.e. the non-flashy/non-sexy boring stuff that actually saves your life.  The media would rather focus on the 1% and then find folks that take it to the extreme.

I watched one show where they showed a woman who was concerned about the H1N1 flu (or whatever it was at the time).  She was stockpiling food and medical supplies, huge stockpile of medical supplies. They also showed her obsessively cleaning and cleaning and cleaning. Obviously OCD.  The more I watched however the more I realized that what I was seeing wasn't exactly what was going on. They used the same clip of her cleaning compulsively 12 times during the 45 minutes of actual show (commercial being the other 15 minutes). Just before and after every commercial they showed the ciip of her cleaning.   Obviously it was done to make her look compulsive but she wasn't really. That huge store of medical supplies (I googled her and the show) was actually part of her internet business. They didn't mention that she was a nurse and had a medical supply business.

My point is that even if the people they show on those survival/prepping shows aren't nuts, they are portrayed as such to make it more dramatic.   In all fairness however, ratings mean money so if was you, would you let them stretch the truth for a bigger piece of the pie?



Not at all surprising.  The 'media' really isn't the media anymore.  It's become in large part the propaganda arm of the Socialists/Communists agenda.  The last thing a Socialist/Communist wants people to do is be self-reliant.  So to that extent they color preppers as a fringe nut-job niche of people.  I would like to think more and more people are seeing through the media these days.
Governmental dependance makes for poor self reliance.

"What could possibly go wrong with a duct tape boat?"  Cody Lundin

The best defense against evil men are good men with violent skill sets.
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