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Woods carry: Revolver
#1
I've got my Glock 22 in 40S&W for primary woods carry.  However, for a while I've thought a little .38 special would also be a dandy little choice for the woods, particularly as a 'snake gun'.  Looking at the shop I usually deal with, they have the Taurus 856 at some very good prices.  Taurus has a $25 and $30 rebate right now till the end of the month as well.  Thinking about this one maybe:

Taurus 856


[Image: Taurus-856-Ultra-Lite-2-856029ULC13-7253....jpg_1.jpg]

Comes in different colors.  The above looks red to me but is marketed as Burnt Orange.  I like this color for a 'woods' gun because of the visibility.  The 856 is based on the Taurus 85 but is 6-shots.  I've had several of the 85's and always liked them quite well.  I think they're a good little solid revolver that is inexpensive.  Someone on GT a while back was talking about carrying a little 5-shot revolver as a woods carry gun because he often worked some type of construction in woodsy/rural/watery/swampy areas.  His primary purpose was for snake protection.  Figure a couple of snake shot rounds in the cylinder and then maybe something like a 158 grain wadcutter or something similar.  I'll have to put some thought into that. 

Thoughts welcome. Smile
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#2
Yeah...if I drop that Kryptek .22 I'll never find it!

Still, I'd prefer .357 incase "not a snake". but again, just depends on what you want to watch out for...
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#3
Back in the day I carried a charter arms off duty as my primary woods/backpack gun. There is just one rather scarce poisonous snake in Mich so that was never a concern. I replaced it with a CA bulldog in 44 spl when I went backpacking on the AT. I handloaded shot loads for both.
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#4
Have to agree with Bob on this one. Spend the extra for a 357. Load--snake-snake-38/147SWC-38/147SWC-357/158JHP or SJHP-357/158JHP or SJHP. Loaded in the weapons rotation sequence.  Two for the snake can be quickly and properly rotated past to get to the 38's for "warning shot/scare-offs followed by two that will fix the problem, then two snake rounds down the throat/in the eyes for last ditch effort.

Just my idea of a good woods carry load. YMMV
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#5
The times I have encountered a poisonous snake, I have had a shovel and ax. Since they startle me, each time I have used what I had in my hand. The one I killed with an ax, about scared my grandpa to an early grave. I was about a third of the way through my swing when I seen the snake crawling right towards grandpa. Re-directed my swing to about two feet in front grandpa who was bent over picking up some brush. He came up a yelling at me and wanting to know why I was trying to kill him. I told him to carefully go look at the ax buried in dirt. He thanked me afterwards and then made me go sharpen the ax for burying it in the dirt.
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#6
To each their own, so to speak, but I would rather have more barrel. If you want to keep weight down then shorter is better. You could also practice your Bob Munden tribute routine by shooting balloons at 200 yards with it. It is an eye catching revolver, though.
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#7
If snakes are a serious concern, the revolver is a great option. If not, your 40 is better in almost every way.
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#8
I have been on the look out for the 85 and the 605 I really would like it in 357 do I have the option of 38 or 357 rual king has them on the web site for 189$ but sold out.
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#9
If 9mm is the new 40, why can't 38spl be the new 357 mag? I mean modern technology has made the 9 almost as good as the 40 why can't the 38spl be jacked up with new powders and projectiles to be almost as good as a 357mag? Maybe it is and I;m just out of touch. It's been awhile since I've played around with my 38s/357s. I wonder what kind of velocities they're getting out of 2" bbl 357s these days? Point is, maybe 38+Ps will do the job a 357 used to.
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#10
(11-05-2019, 11:59 PM)Ronin.45 Wrote: If snakes are a serious concern, the revolver is a great option. If not, your 40 is better in almost every way.


Oh yeah, the .40 is a better gun all the way around;  longer barrel, more ammo, heavier bullet, night sights etc.  The 865 would more or less just be a fun gun with the snake shot being a good excuse to get one.  That and I haven't had a revolver in years so it would be kinda nice to have at least one.


(11-06-2019, 03:59 AM)mac66 Wrote: If 9mm is the new 40, why can't 38spl be the new 357 mag?  I mean modern technology has made the 9 almost as good as the 40 why can't the 38spl be jacked up with new powders and projectiles to be almost as good as a 357mag?  Maybe it is and I;m just out of touch. It's been awhile since I've played around with my 38s/357s.   I wonder what kind of velocities they're getting out of  2" bbl 357s these days?  Point is, maybe 38+Ps will do the job a 357 used to.


Been a while since I've had either, but I'm betting that velocities for the .38 are pretty much the same.  I don't 'know' that but it's my assumption from a liability standpoint with so many older .38's out there.  The actual bullet design has probably improved a bit, I hope.  IIRC, they have 'short barrel' rounds now specifically for snubbies.  But I'm betting velocities for snubbies is about the same.
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