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Semi-auto pistol vs. revolver
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(09-18-2018, 02:04 AM)Bob Wrote: As always - they all work better than most of their users.  

And I agree with Ronin.  The need for more than 3 shots probably starts dropping precipitously.  The need for 15 is more a function of you can't shoot.  I believe that police data shows as mag size went up, so did shots fired, and hits dropped (<= I have no citation on that - could be totally wrong)

I have seen a lot of guys at the range with 15+ round Glocks, that as a criminal, I'd feel pretty ok attacking them with a knife....

But what if you have to lay down covering fire? Then you gonna need all them boolits.   Tongue
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(09-18-2018, 02:04 AM)Bob Wrote: And I agree with Ronin.  The need for more than 3 shots probably starts dropping precipitously.  The need for 15 is more a function of you can't shoot.  I believe that police data shows as mag size went up, so did shots fired, and hits dropped (<= I have no citation on that - could be totally wrong)


You are correct.  Don't quote me on exact stats but I'll give you the ballpark based off memory.  When police generally used 6 shot revolvers they hit on the first round 78% of the time and there was an average of 2.3 rounds fired total in the fight.  When hi cap pistols came into vogue the first shot hit ratio dropped to the high 50% rate (around 58% give or take) and an average of 5.7 rounds were shot total in the fight.  

Hence the term 'spray and pray'.  That was part of the issue.  Part was the early 9mm ammo offerings of the day.
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#23
https://www.tierthreetactical.com/17-mos...xperience/

Has some interesting data and link to sources.

Another site with some stats

https://www.personaldefensenetwork.com/a...gunfights/
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