Poll: For woods carry...
.40 S&W
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Woods carry: .40 S&W or .357sig?
#21


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#22
Right now the poll is 85/15 in favor of the .40 S&W.

Although I may go forth at some point and get a .357sig barrel for the G22, I feel that I'll be just fine with the .40 S&W in my A.O. based on what I've seen/researched.  In the thread I posted on .40 S&W gel test performance, the WWB 180 gran JHP is getting 16.25 inches of penetration through four layers of denim, expansion of 0.79 and retained weight of 179.5 grains.  That's excellent performance coming from what is considered a non-premium line of ammunition that is readily available at the local WM.  That's what I'm looking for in a round.  Particularly from a 'prepper perspective' in that it's local and inexpensive and comes in 50 round boxes.  I can't imagine a premium line of ammunition doing much better in terms of performance and they are normally more expensive and may only come in 20 or 25 round boxes.  

As far as 10mm, it's a fine round.  If I were in Alaska or someplace with bigger game and I hunted more often then perhaps I would give it more consideration.  For my purposes I think the .40 S&W with the possibility of .357sig conversion (and definitely 9mm conversion) is more suited to my needs.
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#23
(06-01-2018, 02:57 PM)mac66 Wrote: Good video.   That has me thinking about getting a 357 sig barrel for my G22


If I found one at a good price or picked one up in a trade I figure it would only be an asset.  Another option which is never a bad thing.
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#24
I think .357 Sig is a niche ammo. Not really a "survival" caliber. However - seems cool, and more fun is more fun.
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#25
I didn't chime in on this topic in another forum, but I will here.

If limited to choosing between .40S&W or .357SIG, I'd opt for the .40 S&W. Why? Because of its bullet weight.

While I've carried a .357MAGNUM in the backwoods as protection against feral animal threat, as a light-duty caliber (meaning not one of my .44's), it wasn't often loaded with something as lightweight as a 125gr. More often it was at least loaded with a stout 140gr JHP (those were the handloading days), and if I actually thought I'd need to protect against a medium-size & medium-skinned critter (bigger than a mountain lion), 158gr or 160gr load. The 160gr was also from my younger handloading days, using a half-jacketed LSWC, loaded to respectable velocity. If I was only concerned about a possible rabid coyote or feral dog, mountain lion or human threats, then the 125gr loads would be used.

The better .40/180's can offer similar performance, to my thinking, as a 158gr JHP fired out of a short-barreled .357MAGNUM revolver.

Now, this is all hypothetical for me nowadays, though. I no longer wander the Sierra foothills where small brn/black bears might be around. The Central Coastal mountain region in which I now like to wander pretty much only presents the possibility of a feral dog or maybe a rabid coyote, or maybe or a mountain lion, and I'd not fell ill-prepared using one of my smaller 9's or .38 snubs for that sort of threat.

If I were going to get serious about deeper woods wandering, closer to the Sierras, I'd once again break out one of my .357 or .44MAGNUM revolvers, and load them with suitable backwoods game-type loads. For "lesser threats"? One of my 3 1/2" .40's would sooth my concerns, loaded with 180gr loads.
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#26
Wouldn't a 147gr .355" bullet from a 357 Sig give better penetration on game because of it's sectional density? I mean, sure you can try using a 200gr bullet in your 40 S&W but velocity will be lacking and I don't think the 180gr would do very well at the 1000-1050 fps you'd get from it. With the 357 Sig you can push a 147gr to 1250 fps and get plenty of penetration and expansion too making it more effective on game.
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#27
I would say, given similar bullet design, a 147 round from a .357sig would have about the same penetration as a 180 round from a .40 S&W.
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