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Ruger PC Carbine
#11
I am looking at it from the ballistic side (just as a reminder my EDC is 45GAP Smile ). It is a good thing being able to plink with a carbine with the same ammo that is used in your handgun. It's even better if you can use it for something more than a plinker or range gun. 

What I have read about pistol calibered carbines the 45ACP is like the 9mm as it will have some increase in ballistics but doesn't take a 35% jump in speed like the 357Sig and 10mm. The 30 carbine has been the benchmark for pistol/carbine combinations and has that 35% jump in speed as well. The 357Sig and 10mm offer slightly better performance than the 30carbine and both are much shorter cartridges.  

I just see other opportunities for this platform and they would not be that expensive to expand the offerings. The 45ACP carbine was  designed but never produced as the Ruger Police Carbine. It is easy to see the relationship between it and the current 9mm Carbine.
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(01-01-2018, 09:08 PM)Tsquare Wrote: I am looking at it from the ballistic side (just as a reminder my EDC is 45GAP Smile ). It is a good thing being able to plink with a carbine with the same ammo that is used in your handgun. It's even better if you can use it for something more than a plinker or range gun. 

What I have read about pistol calibered carbines the 45ACP is like the 9mm as it will have some increase in ballistics but doesn't take a 35% jump in speed like the 357Sig and 10mm. The 30 carbine has been the benchmark for pistol/carbine combinations and has that 35% jump in speed as well. The 357Sig and 10mm offer slightly better performance than the 30carbine and both are much shorter cartridges.  

I just see other opportunities for this platform and they would not be that expensive to expand the offerings. The 45ACP carbine was  designed but never produced as the Ruger Police Carbine. It is easy to see the relationship between it and the current 9mm Carbine.

It's not so much that the 30Carbine gains velocity in a rifle as much as it loses significant velocity when it's unnecessarily used in a handgun. It is, by design, a rifle cartridge and the few handguns it's been crammed into have been generally unsuccessful and ineffective.
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#13
Was thinking about one... in 9mm
But don't think I will unless it comes out in 10mm down the road.
Main reason is I do have a couple of M1 carbines which exceed a Ruger 9mm . While it would be nice to carry common rounds/mags, don't think there's an advantage for me in actual use.
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#14
Part 1 of the Real Guns review is out...

https://www.realguns.com/articles/984.htm/

The only thing I have about PCCs is that if you are going to carry a rifle, why not carry one in a rifle cartridge? Pistol cartridges for pistols, rifle cartridges for rifles.

As for the 30 carbine, I have WWII vintage one. It is fun to shoot but I think the cartridge is obsolete. The 223/5.56, 7.62x39 and even the 300 BO do a better job in the AR/AK platform.
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