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Thumbs Up Pocket pistol range report
Posted by: David - Yesterday, 05:18 PM - Forum: Defense - Replies (1)

Went to the range this morning.  Took several pistols;  Ruger LC9, Ruger LC9s, Taurus 709 Slim and the S&W Shield.  I have to say that I was very pleased with the performance of each of them.  I only had one FTF and that was with the Ruger LC9 with a single 124+P Gold Dots.  I shot Estate 115 fmj, Blazer Brass 115 fmj, PMC 115 fmj and Remington UMC 115 jhp.  Except for that single GD everything else functioned without a hitch.  

I was surprised at how warm the Estate ammo was.  First time I've fired any of it and got three boxes in one of my trades yesterday.  Listed as standard pressure 115 fmj it seemed to be equivalent to the 124+P GD rounds in terms of felt recoil.  

The Remington UMC 115 jhp's fed well and were accurate.  Warm but not uncomfortable to me by any means.  Seeing how these fed reliably in all magazines in all the guns I believe this is a good contender for a locally available SD round in all of these pocket 9's.

For the LC9 and LC9s I currently have a total of 5 magazines.  Four are Italian and one USA.  I have heard that some of the USA mags have malfunction issues but pleased that this one functioned 100%.  The one FTF was with one of the Italian mags.

The LC9s magazine release was on the difficult side to depress easily for the mag to fall out.  You'd have to really get the tip of your thumb on it to depress it fully enough to disengage the magazine.  Not hard to press as in it had a lot of resistance but hard as in it had to really be pushed fully in to get the mag to drop.  Not a deal breaker but I'll have to do a bit of research on this to see if it's common and/or an easy fix and/or it there is an extended mag release available.

In terms of accuracy I'd have to say that they are all comparable.  In terms of felt recoil it was also very close.  I was shooting the LC9s, 709 and Shield side-by-side with one or two rounds fired and then pick up the next gun and repeat.  The LC9s may have had slightly more felt recoil but too be honest it wasn't enough to really be a consideration.  


The LC9 is indeed a long DAO trigger.  But I'm use to revolvers with much longer/harder trigger pulls.  As far as pull weight it wasn't bad at all and actually was pleasant and smooth.  No, not a polished competition gun smooth but for a pocket SD 9mm I was quite pleased.  I don't have a trigger pull gauge but if I had to guess I'd put it at or around 6 lbs.  Smooth pull that was consistent in feel all the way through.  I'm giving this a thumbs up for CCW pocket carry for me.  

LC9s was very pleasant and consistent.  Crisp with a nice reset.  Not unlike a Glock as far as pull weight/feel.  Chances are that the wife will take this one for her CCW.  

709 is a trigger that you have to get use to, but once you do it's fine.  What I mean is that, like the PT111 G2, it breaks very far back.  The trigger travel to the break is consistent each time and the break is crisp.  It just breaks farther back than other guns in this group.  Not really an issue at all, just a difference.   For a SD CCW gun the amount of trigger travel is actually not a bad thing at all.  Nice crisp/short reset.  

Shield had a nice trigger as well for a compact SD CCW gun.  Very consistent and crisp.  Nice reset.  My son has expressed interest in this one for his gun.

All-in-all the triggers on any of these are perfectly fine for a SD CCW gun.  It will be a couple of weeks before my wife, son and I can all arrange to go to the range together due to the Holidays and schedule but I'll have them try out each of the above as well as the Glock 26 my son currently has and then let them decide which works the best for them.  As for me, the LC9 will make a dandy pocket and/or secondary gun to my Glock 26.

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  The Bible, guns and self defense.
Posted by: David - Yesterday, 01:22 PM - Forum: Defense - Replies (1)

I was recently asked in one of my classes several questions in regards to this topic (CCW class for those that go to my church).  Some videos presented here for consideration if it's of interest.

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  Gold Dot 115 standard 9mm
Posted by: David - Yesterday, 04:01 AM - Forum: Firearm Maintenance, modifications and ballistics - Replies (1)

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Smile Couple of new guns...
Posted by: David - 12-16-2017, 08:14 PM - Forum: Defense - No Replies

Well I mentioned a bit ago that I sold my Sig P320.  Nothing wrong with it at all, but I was offered much more than I paid.  Well, I turned that one gun into two which I picked up this morning at what I consider good deals.

First was another Ruger LC9, this one was the LC9s.  That was $245 and came with a second magazine and a pocket holster.  Couple of hundred rounds through it but it looks basically brand new.  

The second was a S&W M&P Shield in 9mm for $370.  This one was brand new (guy shot 14 rounds but the gentleman had arthritis in his hands and wasn't good for him) and on a couple of months old.  Came with new night sights and 150 rounds of FMJ and 20 rounds of HP's.  

So now I need to shoot both Rugers and the Smith and test them with various rounds for function.  What will probably happen is I'll give the Shied to my son as he seemed to like it quite well.  I'll take back the Glock 26 Gen 2.5 I've been letting him use.  My wife had her eyes on my LC9 but I think she'll end up with the Lc9s as she's use to striker fired guns.  This will leave her 709 Slim as a spare for whatever.

I'd like to get to the range tomorrow and test them all out.

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  Sewing Machine!!
Posted by: ric0123 - 12-16-2017, 08:05 PM - Forum: Gardening & Homesteading - Replies (1)

I can actually use a sewing machine (not great, but i can make it work).  I have a very small, cheap machine that runs on 4AA batteries or a DC power cord.   It's not going to do anything heavy duty for sure, but I was thinking of how handy that would be as a long term prep item

yeah, i'd love to have an all metal, turn of the century, pedal powered monster.. but they are like $1500.  Having 1 or 3 of these laying around, probably not a bad idea. It's pretty easy to pull out and set up on the coffee table for something quick.  


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  OK - Let's get Bob his CCW
Posted by: Bob - 12-16-2017, 01:15 PM - Forum: Defense - Replies (10)

So I bought the Walther.  Always been one of my top choices if I carried.  So now that I got it...here we go.

Let's walk me through this step by step.

#1 I know I have to take a class.  At some point I did that years ago.  Does it expire?  Is it registered somewhere?  Not sure if I have the certificate - or even got one????

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  May have found my car Gun!
Posted by: Bob - 12-15-2017, 12:39 AM - Forum: Defense - Replies (5)

Walther PPS - $250

Talk to me.  I am a big fan.  Small, slim, 8 rounds of 9mm....This is what I'm talking about!!!!  Anyone got one?  This has long been what I thought I'd like for general carry, if not a HK p2000sk

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The other option I was thinking was a Bulgarian Makarov in 9x18

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  100% PDW Brace.
Posted by: TN.Frank - 12-14-2017, 05:35 PM - Forum: Firearm Maintenance, modifications and ballistics - No Replies

Picked up another SB Tactical PDW Brace for my 300 Blackout so now both "Pistols" (actually by NFA Rules they're "Firearms") have the PDW Brace.  I think it's the very best option for anyone building an AR Pistol/Firearm. It's uber sturdy, collapses down to make a nice, compact package and when fully extended gives you a reasonable length of pull for an arm brace now that ATF has said we can brace our Pistols/Firearms on your upper arm(other wise known as the shoulder,LOL) so even with the higher cost I think it's well worth the money for what you get. Enjoy the short vid and thanks for watchin'. TN.Frank Out. [video=youtube] https://youtu.be/tCecz6eLlWI[/video]

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  Olight Seeker
Posted by: bmyers - 12-13-2017, 01:01 PM - Forum: Lighting - Replies (1)

My wife got me an Olight Seeker for $50 when it was on sale for Black Friday. I really like the light. It uses the micro USB cable to charge. It has 2,500 lums at max setting. It isn't an EDC light, a little to large for that, but it has now found a place at our backdoor. Nice light with a goof throw to be able to check on the dogs or any bumps in the night outside the house.

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  Revolver for prepping?
Posted by: David - 12-13-2017, 11:57 AM - Forum: Defense - Replies (10)

Do you consider a revolver as viable from a prepping perspective?  If so, what caliber would you chose.

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