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  Can't even go out and eat
Posted by: bmyers - 04-20-2018, 11:30 AM - Forum: Defense - Replies (4)


Reading the article just makes me sick at my stomach. The two officers where just trying to enjoy a meal when this sico guns them down from outside the building. Thanks to all the extremist movements and President Obama's attitude towards law enforcement which set the stage that has given the green light to every sico in town that law enforcement lives are less valuable than others. 

People wonder why law enforcement can be so jumpy, because of situations like this. The protesters in California over the officer involved shooting of the black man who decided to play stupid games and point a phone at them like it was gun in the dark and then the protesters have the nerve to protest the shooting. They march stating the want justice and the only justice they will accept is the hanging of those officers.

Yet, we have two officers killed in cold blood and they are silent. 

Yes, I'm ranting. It just really bothers me that we will give the illegal immigrant more protection and more media time than we will give two officers that died in the line of duty.

When criminals have more rights than citizens, something is really wrong.

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  12 gauge hulls
Posted by: fishingjeff - 04-19-2018, 06:23 PM - Forum: Defense - No Replies

Anyone wanting /needing any hulls, in or near the Sarasota area? I have about 2500-3000 lo- brass, 1-2 reloading's, used in sporting clays. Free- meet me or come and get them.  Mixed head  stamps . 2 3/4" some decapped, some not.


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  Cold Steel Rajah III, Small Knife with a Big Knife Feel.
Posted by: TN.Frank - 04-15-2018, 11:57 PM - Forum: Packs and Gear - Replies (2)

If you're looking for a smaller folder(i.e. 3.5" blade) that will give you a Large folder feel look no further than the Cold Steel Rajah III. Thanks for watching. TN.Frank Out.

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  Defcon level 4
Posted by: ric0123 - 04-15-2018, 02:55 PM - Forum: The Pub - Replies (2)

I have a personal Defcon system that I use for national events. It's very simple, but describes my level of concern/interest.   I think the only time I've been over Defcon 4 was when Katrina was actually aimed to go up through Central Texas, and when there was a self inflicted gas shortage in Austin after Harvey. (both were Defcon 3) 

defcon 5.  Normal
defcon 4.  Alerted
defcon 3.  Concerned
defcon 2.  Worried
defcon 1.  Scared

Right now, I'm at 4, due to the Syria airstrikes and waiting to see what Russia does next. I'm not freaking out, I'm just paying attention.

I think that there are different steps you take at each level.  For instance, yesterday (While I was binge watching the recent season of Fear the Walking Dead),  I checked out my emergency food and battery storage. I realized that some of our food had been eaten and/or expired, and the battery stockpile had been used.  Ok, no big deal. Sunday is our shopping day, so it goes on the list.  I made sure my ham radios were charged and my batteries cart was charged. Check.  

No big deal. Not freaking out, just looking at the supplies

I don't really know what would move me to Defcon 3... Probably a retaliatory strike by Russia against NATO.  However, that could move us from defcon 3 to defcon 1 in a real hurry.

Anyway, I really don't know what steps I'd take at each level, or at what point I'd decide to call into work and stay home. My boss is ex military so I suspect he would understand, but I'm also pretty new at my agency. So it's a tough call. 

Probably at Defcon 3 I'd sit my GF down and show her how to use my ham radio and have a hard, serious discussion about getting home from work/evac, make her put a bigger gear bag in her car, change of clothes, etc.. (in case she had to walk home, she's not far away).

She's already got equipment in her car (that I put there) but it can always be better.. We all know that it's a process that never ends. 

So, anyway, no real point to this other than to sort of talk out my system and attempt to talk about what happens at each step.   All of my romantic/live in partners have obviously known about my prepping and I use this system to sort of explain my mental state when a crisis might start to come up (Tornado, ice, wild fires, international events, etc)

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  The forgotten container
Posted by: bdcochran - 04-14-2018, 07:26 PM - Forum: Packs and Gear - Replies (6)

Ok.  Shtf.  You have to carry water, supplies or store water and supplies.  Simply having a water filter doesn't cut it.  Or simply having a backpack.

I was living with the Ahka tribe in the highlands.  The water came from a well; not a mythical stream envisioned by armchair survivalists.  If you wanted water, you had to have a carrying device, walk to the well, load up and go home.  You had to pick up your cooking water, washing water, bathing water, clean up water.    5 gallons of water weighs 40 pounds.  The women did not have #2 paint buckets (#2 on the bottom means food grade).  They didn't have twist off tops.  They had to use hollowed out bamboo.  They were strong. 

So, now you face a problem.  The average person uses over 200 gallons of water a day.  All right, so you cut down the usage.  You still need to haul it.  So, I have 5 gallon food grade buckets with twist off/reusable lids that can be used for other types of storage.  I have a push cart and a dolly.  If I had a supermarket basket, I would be still better off.

I picked up a dozen or so empty plastic flasks.  I also have a couple dozen empty 2 liter bottles (they will deteriorate if you store even water in them),

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  I just got stood up on Arms list
Posted by: ric0123 - 04-14-2018, 05:46 PM - Forum: The Pub - Replies (4)

Sorry, i'm venting.....    I found a great deal on a new AR this week on Armslist.  I emailed the guy, everything is all good. We pick a place this morning at 11, I email him when I wake up with my car and what I'm wearing, I go get cash from the bank, sit at the meeting spot for 45 minutes, email him 3 times... nothing.  Total ghost. 

I don't if I'm more pissed off about getting stood up, or missing out on the chance for a good deal on exactly the gun I've been looking for.

Grr...  I even skipped going to the range afterwards because I'm so pissed off. 

anyway, no point to this, just ranting lol

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  DIY pocket mag pouch challenge
Posted by: David - 04-13-2018, 09:54 PM - Forum: DIY - Replies (5)

Reading the USCCA magazine today and saw an ad for this product:

Ammo Armor

That led me to a DIY video:

So this got me thinking of what I might have handy at the house, or easily obtained inexpensively that would make a good pocket mag holder/pouch.  Someone (don't remember who) suggested something like an eye glass pouch cut down to fit whatever magazine is being used.  So I'm on a quest to find something handy that would work well for my LCP magazine for pocket carry.  And maybe a LC9 and G43 magazine.  

Thoughts and ideas welcome.

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  Instructor pricing
Posted by: mac66 - 04-11-2018, 08:45 PM - Forum: Defense - Replies (5)

I don't know if any of you are firearms instructors but many gun manufacturers have instructor discounts for NRA, Appleseed, 4 H, Boy Scout,  and state certified instructors including Hunter Safety.   

Frankly,  most of the discounts are minimal and often times you can find the firearms they discount on sale cheaper at PSA or Buds etc,. Occasionally you can buy their guns cheaper through the Instructor program. 

 A case in point is the Ruger EC9s. The EC9s is the budget version of the LC9s. It is striker fired, has a different finish and has sights machined into the slide. I've been looking at replacing my LC9 with the striker fired version and have been looking at the prices since the EC9s has come out.  So far the Instructor price on that gun is significantly cheaper than I can find anywhere online.  

If you qualify you might want to take a look at instructor pricing.  I can send you PDF for Ruger and a few others though like I said, most discounts aren't worth the trouble and of course you still have to have the firearm sent to an FFL and pay the transfer fees.

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  Local storage facilities
Posted by: bmyers - 04-09-2018, 07:31 PM - Forum: General Discussion - Replies (1)

Do you know where the local storage facilities are? We have three here in our town that could have supplies in them in a SHTF type scenario. My guess is that most stores will be looted fairly quickly, but I'm not sure how many people think about checking these locations out? Realizing that these would be more for supplies such as tools and maybe the occasional dirt bike type items. I don't see these as places to find food, but I would say you that stand a decent chance of finding tools and usable clothing (understand the GAP is no longer open so you may have to wear grandpa's 1950's suit).

Anyway, just trying to think of places to look for supplies if the worst would happen and it is one that I hadn't really thought about.

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  Hiking/Back Packing Stuff
Posted by: mac66 - 04-08-2018, 01:43 PM - Forum: Camping, hiking, fishing, hunting & trapping - Replies (3)

First let me qualify my remarks to say that I am no expert.  

I did quite a bit of hiking and backpacking in the 1970s, 80s and 90s and then again when I went to Alaska in 2015.  Technology has changed a lot since the old days particularly in the weight of equipment.

My wife and I are doing some hiking in a few weeks at all the national parks in Hawaii. Will also be going down to Smokey Mountain NP to get some trail time in on the Appalachian Trail this summer before our Andes Mountain/Inca Trail BP trip in Sept.  May or may not also run out to Colorado to try and get some higher altitude hiking/BP in as well. Let me also qualify my remarks to say the we are in our early/mid 60s so what works for us may or may not work for you.

With most of our gear being decades old we have started to look, shop and buy new stuff.  I thought I would document what we are doing in case anyone else is interested.  I will likely break it down between old stuff and new stuff.

First up...

Hiking Shoes/boots...

Old-Back in the day people wore hiking boots which were usually above the ankle with sturdy leather uppers and thick, pretty rigid soles.  The pair I wore to Alaska were about 15 years old at the time and fit that description.  They were well worn and by the time I got back from Alaska were worn out and thrown away. I don't even remember what brand they were.   

New: Running shoe technology has taken over and light weight "trail runners" have replaced boots.  I was somewhat surprised that hikers and even backpackers wear mostly low top shoes these days and those are like running shoes.  Those in the know say every pound on your feet is like 6-8 pounds on your back when you are BPing so lighter is better.  

Like everything else you can go cheap or go expensive. I try to find the best bang for the buck i.e, something that works but won't break the bank.  My research indicates that Merrell Moab 2s get consistently good reviews and don't cost an arm and a leg.   I have a pair of Moab 2 tactical boots I bought last fall for hunting. They are the most comfortable boots I've ever worn and were that way right out of the box so that's where I started looking.

 Merrell also makes the Moab 2 in both low top hiking shoes and mid height "boots" as well.  My high boots do tend to be warm in warmer weather and so I started looking at the mids and low tops as alternative for warmer weather hiking. They also all come in either waterproof or ventilated. Prices range from $90-120 depending on whether high or low, waterproof or not.  

High or low?

I have some ankle issues, had my right foot and ankle rebuilt 7 years ago so I tend toward higher boots. That was one of the reason I bought the 8" Moabs. Bushwhacking through the woods I need ankle support but I could also use them for hiking. On the other hand, most hiking/BPing is done on trails.   On the other, other hand, having lost a significant amount of weight 40+ lbs has lessened the strain on my ankles and I am most likely to do most of my hiking/BPing in warmer weather on trails.  I am covered for cooler, strenuous terrain with my boots so I decided to go with the low top Moabs for hiking.

Waterproof or Not? 

The next question is waterproof or not?  The advantage of waterproof boots is that if you hike in wet, cool weather your feet stay warm longer. But what's considered wet and cool?   Grass is usually wet in the morning even in the summer and your feet can get soaked walking through it. On the other hand, waterproofing tends to hold moisture and your feet get hot and sweaty anyway. They will get wet from the inside out. Waterproofed boots, even Gore-Tex ones tends to take longer to dry out.  When I was in Alaska there was often frost or snow on the ground in the mornings which would melt by mid morning. 

So for summer/warm weather hiking I think non-waterproof i.e, vented shoes/boots are best as even if they get wet in the morning they will dry out as you go and/or dry out faster so that's what I bought.

I looked around at prices for about a month and found that the low top Merrell Moab 2 vented hikers were around $100 in most places including Cabelas.  I ended up buying a $100 gift card for $80 online and bought them at Cabelas.  They are not super light weight (listed at 1 lb 15 ozs)  like trail runners but certainly better than the 3lbs+ boots I was wearing before.  I felt I needed the stability and extra durability of hiking shoes over runners.

Been wearing them for about a week and they, like the Moab boots I bought last fall are very comfortable. It is still cold here and we even had a couple inches of snow the other day so being non waterproof and vented they are not ideal now. They should be fine in Hawaii and this summer.

I am already thinking of buying the mid height waterproof Moabs for my Peru trip in Sept. We will be in the Andes mountains at 9-14,000 feet for 5 days. It is quite cold and misty there and the trail is steep at times so the added support would be helpful. And they could be worn in the winter around here as well. 

Other thoughts....

One thing that people don't think about when hiking/backpacking is that when going down hill (what goes up, must come down) your feet slide forward and jam your toes. When you do that for miles it is very painful particularly when carrying a pack. The one thing I like about the Moabs is that they have a very stable heal box which locks your heal in place. My hunting property has some very steep hills and I have found my feet do not slide forward in my Moab boots. That to me is a proven design and one reason why I bought the Moab shoes. I'm sure other hiking shoes do that as well but I know the Moabs do.

In regards to my wife. she used some light weight Under Armor mid height hikers in Alaska and complained of them rubbing her ankles sore after a couple days. She walks a lot and wears running shoes so will likely use those in Hawaii. For Peru she looked at and likes the Moab 2. She is leaning toward the water proof low ones.

Overall I think the Moabs are a good bang for the buck. We shall see in a couple weeks.

Stay Tuned....

Next up, sleeping pads.

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